You' re not insulting me at all! Being french Canadian, I' m not 100% shure I understood everything you wrote, but if you look at my first post, I' m not expecting a rust free R/T 440 for 10K. I don' t care if it' s a non R/T originally 318, and I said I want a solid body, doesn' t mean rust free and no body work to do at all. But I don' t want a car that I have to replace the frame rails, floors, quarters, trunk floor., doors, fenders and on and on. I restored a 70 SE in the 90s and I know what it is. I fugure by paying 10K to begin with, I could finish the project with another 20K, I just don' t have 30K right now, but I do have around 10K to invest at the moment, maybe 15. Will have to sell my '79 Li' l red express truck to complete my future Challenger project, (sold my SE in 2001 and I miss it...)Anyway Mr NormsTA, how much do you want for your R/T SE?