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70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« on: January 17, 2012 - 11:46:33 AM »
For those of you that have replaced the plastic hardware that attaches the door glass to the the slide rail, I need some help.  The forward side of the door glass attaches to the slide rail with 2 plastic what I'll call round clip/bushings...basically looks like a roller.  These clip bushings attach to the door glass via a threaded stud that protrudes thru the square slides that ride up and down in the the track/channel. 

My question is this:  When replacing these round clip/bushings that mount the glass to the slide rail....do you install the clip in the glass first and then press/push it on to the threaded stud or do you put it on the threaded stud first and then press/push it on to the glass?   Also have the same question with the clip that attaches the forward part of the regulator to the door glass.  I'll be doing this with the glass and regulator installed.   Any help would be appreciated!!   

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70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012 - 12:31:11 PM »
I don`t think that will work with the glass in the door.  Do yourself a favor and take it out.  You need to install the round plastic parts in the glass, then screw the square sliders and then push on the front guide rail. ( you mention threaded studs...as far as I know they are screws, put in from the rail side...) That entire assembly is lowered into the door.  After that comes the rest. It`s really not as hard as it seems, unless you do it different than the factory did.
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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012 - 02:19:02 PM »
I don`t think that will work with the glass in the door.  Do yourself a favor and take it out.  You need to install the round plastic parts in the glass, then screw the square sliders and then push on the front guide rail. ( you mention threaded studs...as far as I know they are screws, put in from the rail side...) That entire assembly is lowered into the door.  After that comes the rest. It`s really not as hard as it seems, unless you do it different than the factory did.

Dutch...so you're saying with the glass and regulator removed from the door put the plastic pieces in the glass, then attach the glass to the regulator, and then as an assembly (the glass with regulator attached) install in the door?  Im pretty sure I can get the plastic pieces on the glass with the glass still in the door since they just press fit in.  Then I was hoping you could push the clips onto the screws.  This would prevent taking the glass and regulator out which is what Im trying to prevent.
   

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012 - 07:09:29 PM »
I think we may need some pics to be sure we`re talking about the same parts...



2 of these for the front guide rail.  they are pushed through the glass and the square part is screwed on. the head of the screw will be inside the rail.



up stop ,down stop

these are from hamtrack registery... very handy  :2thumbs:









when the glass and front guide rail are in the door ,you can place the rear guide, then the regulator and horizontal guide rail.
Maybe it`s possible to do it your way, but since I`m not 100% sure I know what you mean, I really coudn`t say  :dunno:  let me know if you need more help.  :2thumbs:
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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012 - 07:17:34 PM »
 :popcorn:

Need to repalce my glass too

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012 - 09:45:33 PM »
Just put new glass in mine. With regulator and rear rail in, install all new hardware on glass, slide front rail onto 2 square sliders and put into door as one piece. Make sure to put bumper in bottom and tape off door. Take your time

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012 - 08:52:21 AM »
Thanks for the info. guys.  Parts are coming in today and I will put them in over the weekend.

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012 - 01:34:00 PM »
Thanks for the info. guys.  Parts are coming in today and I will put them in over the weekend.

I was able to get the passenger side door glass out by disconnecting the front and rear regulator rail arms from the door glass, removing the chrome felt strip from the top of the door, and removing the top bolt from the front slide rail which allowed me to pull in on the slide rail enough to allow the square sliders to come out the top of the slide rail....wah la...glass is out.  After replacing all the plastic window attaching hardware I re-installed the glass the same way in reverse order
       

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012 - 08:01:08 PM »
So no need to remove the glass with the front rail still attached?

I'm still a little fuzzy, you were able to remove and install the glass without removing either vertical rail?
Just unbolt it from the regulator?

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012 - 03:43:36 AM »
I guess you can get it out without the front rail attached, but that way you have less room to manouvre the glass and a bigger chance of braking it or damaging the paint on the top side of the door.  It`s only 2 bolts  :dunno: 
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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012 - 08:33:45 AM »
So no need to remove the glass with the front rail still attached?

I'm still a little fuzzy, you were able to remove and install the glass without removing either vertical rail?
Just unbolt it from the regulator?

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katfish....yes, I was able to remove the glass without removing either rail.  I just removed the upper mtg. bolt for the front rail and pulled inward on the rail which allowed the square slides to come out the top of the rail.    The chrome felt strip at the top of the door had to be removed to be able to do this, it just clips in.  But as dutch states to remove the glass with the front rail still attached would only require taking the 2 additional bolts off from the bottom of the front rail.     

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012 - 08:36:06 AM »
Now I have another question....who can tell me where the bottom rubber bumpers go?  I do not have any bumbers at the bottom of the door area and when the glass is lowered all the way down the bottom of the glass is sitting on the structure.

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012 - 09:52:55 AM »
there`s a slotted hole in the bottom of the door. The rubber is pushed in there.
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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012 - 11:05:48 AM »
there`s a slotted hole in the bottom of the door. The rubber is pushed in there.

Are there 2, one for the front and one in the rear?  Is it the one in the above pics?  The YearOne website shows 2 diffeent bumpers so Im confused what goes where.

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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012 - 02:17:38 PM »
pfff...  :clueless:  I think there`s only one per door, but not 100% sure.  the one above is in my door
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Re: 70 Cuda Door Glass Attaching Hardware Help
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012 - 02:17:38 PM »