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Offline RzeroB

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2016 - 01:03:41 pm »
Wow! :eek4: I feel for you! I don't know if I could punch a baby, but I'd be hoping mad myself! :stomp:
Was this a Mopar Performance crate motor that was sold by a factory authorized vendor, or was it built by a third party builder?
Simply unbelievable.
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2016 - 02:46:27 pm »
Man this really stinks.  I'm so sorry to hear about this crappy scenario.  I hope it works out for you and there is some justice done.  I'm actually looking for a crate motor and am considering factory direct or third party.  This is going to make me wonder a lot about what is being done internally for engine builds.

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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2016 - 03:17:43 pm »
Man this really stinks.  I'm so sorry to hear about this crappy scenario.  I hope it works out for you and there is some justice done.  I'm actually looking for a crate motor and am considering factory direct or third party.  This is going to make me wonder a lot about what is being done internally for engine builds.

Thanks, if you go with a hemi that look no further than Tim at forhemisonly.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2016 - 03:59:30 pm »
Wow that is some crazy stuff!

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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2016 - 04:09:58 pm »
Wow that is some crazy stuff!

 :22yikes:

Yeah I cant stop looking at the pics, im pretty pissed off for sure I am hoping I can get some help from the builder or mopar I really cant believe a shop would do this to someone. I am not rich by any means and like you guys work very hard and long hours for my paycheck that's why its been 11 years in the making and to get this punch in the gut so close to the finish really feels like its hopeless. :1zhelp:

I have been a Mopar guy from birth live and breath them, got in fights over it, Ran mopar stock cars (the only one around our area), ran 440s in lobster boats( for sure the only one in any harbour) had multiple E/B/A bodies loved them all. I know this is just a crappy builder but they sell them through MOPAR who I held on a pedestal my whole life. :walkaway:
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2016 - 04:28:23 pm »
So sorry to see this Bruce. This is unbelievable and I will want 100% cash back from whoever sold that piece of art. I recall commenting how nice it looks when going through your build thread. Hope you get it sort out quick.

My SB is currently being build by a reputable builder and seeing this kind of stuff really adds anxiety to anyone having engine put together.
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2016 - 04:50:25 pm »
This doesn't really make any sense. I haven't heard of anyone building a short rod, Large rod journal 572. I could see some backyard shop doing it but not one that Mopar contracted the build to. Our old Mopar RIP, I have no allegiance to Fiat but I know I still have to tell myself it isn't the same company.

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2016 - 04:51:00 pm »
So sorry to see this Bruce. This is unbelievable and I will want 100% cash back from whoever sold that piece of art. I recall commenting how nice it looks when going through your build thread. Hope you get it sort out quick.

My SB is currently being build by a reputable builder and seeing this kind of stuff really adds anxiety to anyone having engine put together.

Hey thanks a lot,

Yeah well we will see where it goes. and yes an eye opening experience for sure, sounds like you went with a good and honest builder so I would not worry to much. like I said I could live with an unforeseen issue or a mistake even, but this was a blatant disregard for the people who would spend good money for it. I mean who ever put it together knew enough to do so and knew it would grenade. I don't get it.

Thanks again,

Bruce.

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2016 - 04:55:24 pm »
Wow. Interested to hear who. And what is offered to remedy this BS
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2016 - 05:30:01 pm »
Whoa!! You almost have to believe it was done intentionally. It goes way beyond a little oops. Make's you wonder if the builder had some kind of axe to grind.
Good luck getting this mess straightened out.
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« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2016 - 05:32:05 pm »
Wow. Interested to hear who. And what is offered to remedy this BS

Hey Marc70challenger,

Well I contacted who I bought it from to see if they could find out who did build it

And before I go any further It is 1000% nothing to do with who I bought through, they are very good friends and the best of the best as far as I am concerned and I am sure they feel bad and also betrayed as I know for sure they do not want to sell junk like that, I just picked the part number I wanted and they ordered it up.

I mean it must have been built by a fairly large well known shop, I would not think mopar would just get anyone to build them although joe blow rod shop probably would have done better lol .

Thanks for letting me rant over this,

bruce
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2016 - 05:37:09 pm »
Whoa!! You almost have to believe it was done intentionally. It goes way beyond a little oops. Make's you wonder if the builder had some kind of axe to grind.
Good luck getting this mess straightened out.

Thanks, yeah I feel like taking an axe to whoever put it together.
1970 challenger 95% done
1969 roadrunner in progress
1969 D-100 13,000 mile truck
1969 L-700 tilt cab in progress
2007  Dodge Ram 4x4
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2016 - 11:09:55 pm »
Hey Marc70challenger,

Well I contacted who I bought it from to see if they could find out who did build it

And before I go any further It is 1000% nothing to do with who I bought through, they are very good friends and the best of the best as far as I am concerned and I am sure they feel bad and also betrayed as I know for sure they do not want to sell junk like that, I just picked the part number I wanted and they ordered it up.

I mean it must have been built by a fairly large well known shop, I would not think mopar would just get anyone to build them although joe blow rod shop probably would have done better lol .

Thanks for letting me rant over this,

bruce
Whats the chances of someone else ordering an engine from your suppler and getting one like you did ? Have they said ?

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2016 - 11:46:09 pm »
OMG!   :22yikes:

I just can't believe this mess!

Like what you said. Tim is gonna make it into a beast.
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2016 - 09:09:01 am »
Whats the chances of someone else ordering an engine from your suppler and getting one like you did ? Have they said ?

Hey, well I think the chances are 100% probable I am sure this is not a one off as it took some them some time to make the necessary clearances and also just a bunch of off the shelf mixed up parts.

Tim has seen and talked to me about what he has found in some of these crate disaster's but he said this one takes the cake. just cant believe anyone would take the time to build and hold their breath on the dyno and if it holds together send it out the door with a clear conscience. :dunno:   
1970 challenger 95% done
1969 roadrunner in progress
1969 D-100 13,000 mile truck
1969 L-700 tilt cab in progress
2007  Dodge Ram 4x4
2017 hyundia Santa fe ultimate
1977 VERY UNDERSTANDING WIFE !! 😇