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Offline ragtopdodge

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #135 on: January 11, 2017 - 12:30:39 PM »
I honestly think if Roseville took the payment, it is up to Roseville to reimburse and/or make the deal. They in turn go to MP. It's the way business is done. There are no friendships here, or shouldn't be. Not trying to be a dick but with my contractors it is they who sign a contract with a warranty. I'm not chasing their suppliers if there's a problem. I go to the name on the contract and if they can't address it you can damn sure know it is they the lawyers will call.
WHOMEVER TOOK YOUR PAYMENT IS 100% RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE THIS RIGHT. Should they go up their supplier chain to recoup losses is up to them.

I concur.  Maybe Roseville should just accept a return, and have Roseville get re-imbursed when they return it to Mopar.
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #136 on: January 11, 2017 - 01:02:23 PM »
 :iagree:

No offense to anyone, but certainly the seller got "their cut" for being middleman here, right?  Doesn't seem right when so much is so wrong that the end buyer is left holding the bag but the middle man and the manufacturer get paid.

As a business, they will have much more luck persuing this through the vendor that sold it to them to begin with....I am sure their vendors want their continued business and will make it right.

It doesnt matter if all the OP did was "gave them a part number I wanted and they had it drop shipped".

These days, a LOT is drop shipped. Half the time you order something online its drop shipped.   The vendor still gets a cut.  The vendor is who sells it to the customer.

If you bought a fender thru a vendor and it showed up all smashed, would you just eat it?  Of course not...you would go back to who sold it to ya and let them deal with it.

An engine isnt something you can tell is right or wrong by the outward appearance.

If it was just running poorly after miles of use, thats one thing. One could argue that the user messed it up.

This engine had been butchered well before it every left the dock.

I am sure the seller will do what's right....this reflects on them as much as on the manufacturer.  If they are true friends to the OP, they will square him up.  If they don't, well, that sort of calls into question the whole concept of friends to begin with IMHO.  I understand the OP no wanting to crap all over a friendship or to drag folks into something un-necessarily.....but hey...business is business.  We aint talkiing chump money here.

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #137 on: January 11, 2017 - 05:14:08 PM »
Never do business with friends unless you are prepared to not have them as a friend.
If we did this then he wouldn't really be a friend as you should know whether you can trust a friend or not.
I have dealt with Dave as many on this board have and found him very up front even when he has a problem and is always quick to rectify the problem, most of the quality parts house do the same especially if they want our return business.
Unfortunately the $$ numbers are a little higher on this transaction, cordodge has made the decision to respect his friendship with Dave, I am sure that Dave would not be sitting back but putting all his resources in to help cordodge.
I for one would like to see where this ends up but feel that we should let them work it out , whoever did the original build-up should be exposed far and wide once the dust settles though.   :2thumbs:
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #138 on: January 16, 2017 - 07:12:17 PM »
This is Bad for business Dave
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2017 - 10:10:54 PM »
I concur.  Maybe Roseville should just accept a return, and have Roseville get re-imbursed when they return it to Mopar.

 :iagree: Or an insurable loss under Roseville's product liability insurance? Let the insurance company reimburse Roseville, then go after the Mopar supplier for defective workmanship?  :dunno:
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2017 - 10:20:57 PM »
just checked in on this to see status.
As expected, just dragging on and on and on
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2017 - 09:13:07 AM »
Here is the problem folks. Its not that i'm not willing to help Bruce. Which I have talked with the head of FCA engine department that also see's over performance. The big issue is that it was purchased 5 years ago and KB is now since gone under. Chrysler is the one that is liable for this engine as we did not build it or dyno it. Yes this is a very bad issue but we didn't create it. I have not seen a list of parts that the engine needs or what is being asked of Mopar to fix. this is a manufacture/Mopar Performance/FCA issue not Roseville. I've seen pictures but that's it. FHO has taken the engine apart and I am unaware of what it may need. I am willing to work with Bruce but Everything has to be with in reason. A while back I've ask for a case number and who he has been in contact with and haven't heard that info. Mopar is not quick to react by no means which by there reactions isn't good. Mopar should release new parts to resolve this issue. But yet that has remain to be seen. Everyone cant point a finger and thats fine.
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #142 on: February 03, 2017 - 10:42:28 AM »
Thanks for the update Dave!  I assumed there was a deeper story going on here . . .  :eek4:

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #143 on: February 03, 2017 - 11:01:06 AM »
Here is the problem folks. Its not that i'm not willing to help Bruce. Which I have talked with the head of FCA engine department that also see's over performance. The big issue is that it was purchased 5 years ago and KB is now since gone under. Chrysler is the one that is liable for this engine as we did not build it or dyno it. Yes this is a very bad issue but we didn't create it. I have not seen a list of parts that the engine needs or what is being asked of Mopar to fix. this is a manufacture/Mopar Performance/FCA issue not Roseville. I've seen pictures but that's it. FHO has taken the engine apart and I am unaware of what it may need. I am willing to work with Bruce but Everything has to be with in reason. A while back I've ask for a case number and who he has been in contact with and haven't heard that info. Mopar is not quick to react by no means which by there reactions isn't good. Mopar should release new parts to resolve this issue. But yet that has remain to be seen. Everyone cant point a finger and thats fine.

Please don't point the finger at Dave, he has been in contact with me on this. The problem is that it was just not that long ago I got an e mail from perftec asking for the dealers info. To that point I was in contact with them when they felt like it. Now they have the dealers into that they requested ( they want to deal with the dealer now not me) which is fine. I had asked for a case number multiple times but never heard back, but I'm hoping now that they have what they asked for they will supply one. Dave I will contact FHO and ask Tim for a list of items it will require and send it to you.

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #144 on: February 03, 2017 - 11:17:02 AM »
I was reading an old Q/A with the president of Mopar and at the end it had his email address. pietro.gorlier (at) chrysler.com  Maybe try emailing him for help?
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #145 on: February 03, 2017 - 11:27:37 AM »
I was reading an old Q/A with the president of Mopar and at the end it had his email address. pietro.gorlier@chrysler.com  Maybe try emailing him for help?

I appreciate that

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #146 on: February 03, 2017 - 12:04:40 PM »
The engine was bought 5 years ago???

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #147 on: February 03, 2017 - 03:30:13 PM »
The engine was bought 5 years ago???

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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #148 on: February 03, 2017 - 03:36:41 PM »
I was reading an old Q/A with the president of Mopar and at the end it had his email address. pietro.gorlier (at) chrysler.com  Maybe try emailing him for help?


Just a note, posting someones mail address in a public forum will for sure ruin it quick, he will get massive amounts of spam and probably change it. Webspiders (robots) catch those and use it for spamming. At least remove the @ sign and replace with (at) will be safer. (I changed it in the quoute text). I had to ditch my domain name for this reason.
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Re: CRATE HEMI DISSASTER
« Reply #149 on: February 03, 2017 - 03:42:43 PM »
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June 2011 I believe

Now, that may put a different spin on it. May have to think on it for a bit though. Very unfortunate situation for sure.  :popcorn: