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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #345 on: May 01, 2016 - 12:57:24 pm »
Nice productive day.....feels good when after all your hard work, something finally looks different. :smoking

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #346 on: May 01, 2016 - 01:13:00 pm »
I agree, however now I can see all of the issue...  :stomp: But it is progress nonetheless.
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70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #347 on: May 01, 2016 - 01:16:52 pm »
Haha, been there......but then again, that's the fun of the whole thing, getting it right for you. Carry on

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #348 on: May 01, 2016 - 02:29:54 pm »
Congrats. :woo:  It's another leg of the journey and great to see one color to pull it all together.  Based on what you've accomplished to date, the list is probably getting shorter so you can steadily knock them off.

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #349 on: May 01, 2016 - 04:37:21 pm »
Looks good from here!, good work Mike. by the time the green goes on you will have it worked out.
are the problems in the panel fit or straightness?
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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #350 on: May 01, 2016 - 07:08:34 pm »
Excellent! Bonus points!
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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #351 on: May 01, 2016 - 08:56:53 pm »
Looks good from here!, good work Mike. by the time the green goes on you will have it worked out.
are the problems in the panel fit or straightness?

it will be as straight as it is going to get for me...
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
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9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #352 on: May 01, 2016 - 10:13:27 pm »
Keep us the good work!
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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #353 on: May 01, 2016 - 11:36:29 pm »
I am now trying to figure out what to do with the results of my sanding. I have some low spots and some high spots. Obviously I need to fill the low spots with something and deal with the high spots with a hammer and dolly. An example of my quandary is this; I have a low spot around a marker light, however the panel above it is flat. So do I scuff it up and fill the low spot with body filler (I think it is too deep for glazing putty). I am thinking this is what I should be doing, but am not 100% sure. Also, in the process of blocking, I have burned through the poly is a few spots which I believe will be covered by the 2K urethane primer/filler (followed by the epoxy), however again I am not overly confident at this point.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #354 on: May 02, 2016 - 12:51:54 am »
Guide coat might help you really see what's going on.  It shows everything.   I use rage extreme for filler on larger stuff.  And then I really like the easy sand from Evercoat from there.  it feathers exceptionally well.  I use it a lot.     2K primers can fill a lot af subtle stuff too just by building it up in one spot.  got a little pink hair dryer to keep it from sagging if you go at it too much.    Not all sand paper is the same either.  I find the colored stuff from HD works real good. Non slip back and it doesn't gum up as easy.  Clean the dust off your blocks if it gets built up with some scotchbrite, Which works well for real curvy areas too. 

Keep at it.  Seeing good progress!!  I know it's tough by yourself.      Where u at ?

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13' Challenger R/T BlacktoP  6spd. (OO________OO)
71' Demon
75' Duster
87' Conquest TSI
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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #355 on: May 02, 2016 - 01:08:54 am »
Guide coat might help you really see what's going on.  It shows everything.   I use rage extreme for filler on larger stuff.  And then I really like the easy sand from Evercoat from there.  it feathers exceptionally well.  I use it a lot.     2K primers can fill a lot af subtle stuff too just by building it up in one spot.  got a little pink hair dryer to keep it from sagging if you go at it too much.    Not all sand paper is the same either.  I find the colored stuff from HD works real good. Non slip back and it doesn't gum up as easy.  Clean the dust off your blocks if it gets built up with some scotchbrite, Which works well for real curvy areas too. 

Keep at it.  Seeing good progress!!  I know it's tough by yourself.      Where u at ?

R/T

I am in Western Washington (near Olympia). My real question is if I should buy more polyester primer or move along, fix what needs fixing and them move on to the 2K urethane. My hesitation is that I am going to waste the 2K or end up accepting something that I shouldn't. Overall, the car is blocking out but I feel that I would get it smooth/straight enough for the 2K. I have 1 qt left of the poly which might be enough for the problem areas only (shoots pretty fast with a 2.0 tip). I don't really want to buy another gal or even a qt because it takes over a week to get here (hasmat...). I am pretty confident I can get it smooth but then again I thought it was pretty good before I primed it yesterday... just saying.

Appreciate the advice/comment. I have a plethora of sanding blocks/boards and enough paper to get it done, its the primer that I am wondering about. Perhaps another way to state it is that if I fill a low spot and try and get it down I am going to end up taking off any poly near it, now I have different levels of filler/material and need a way to build it back up and then re-block it smooth. This tells me I need more poly, so therefore I am going to have to reprime at least that area or am I suppose to block it all out, fix all of the areas, then reprime the whole car and start over? if this is the case, then I need to order more poly. I will if I have to as this is going to be the foundation for the top coat so in my mind it needs to be as good as I can get it now, just am not 100% sure of the finer details here.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #356 on: May 02, 2016 - 01:11:07 am »
Oh and for the record I am using guide coat, pretty much everywhere.

On a related subject, how the hell are you suppose to not burn through the style lines and edges? about 2 strokes with sand paper and you are at bare metal.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #357 on: May 02, 2016 - 06:50:12 pm »
I do all my filler work in the 2K high build.  When you sand filler start by cross sanding from the center out feathering the edges some first.   Then deck it.   You read the filler like a book. Start where it's thickest.   You need to fill well beyond what you think it would take most of the time.    When I have problems,I'm not going big enough most of the time.     Then you get a low all around.     In the end it's almost better to just skim the whole dang thing. 

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'73 340 5 speed,RMS,BAER,... "Supercuda" (O[   ]||||[   ]O)  
'69 Dodge Charger 383,Auto                  (OiiiiiiiiiiIiiiiiiiiiiO)
13' Challenger R/T BlacktoP  6spd. (OO________OO)
71' Demon
75' Duster
87' Conquest TSI
56' Plaza
Boulder CO
Robert    "cuda bob"

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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #358 on: May 02, 2016 - 07:13:15 pm »
I agree, Pull all the low spots out as close to level as possible then skim the whole dang thing.





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Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
« Reply #359 on: May 02, 2016 - 07:46:08 pm »
Thanks for the information. I have been block, filling, sanding, blocking and filling all day; have about 1/2 the car done (probably less actually). The "concept" I have arrived at is that I am filling all the low spots, bringing them down as level as possible. I have has a few high spots which I tapped down and then skim coated over. Speaking of that, by the time I am done I will have skim coated a good portion of the car, however I was thinking the poly would do some of that. Regardless, this is where I am and how I am proceeding. My one question/problem is that after I fill an area and knock it down, I am not real sure it is level or will not look bad/weird once I put 2K and paint on it. I don't really want to have to continue to fill and such with the 2K; perhaps a small pin hole or something but I should not be filling at that point (at least in my mind, that is how I see it). I certainly could but to my mind it should be about ready or very close.

On a positive note, the poly sands really well and blocks out nicely. In hind sight I am thinking I should have done the 2K, then did all of the filling, then the poly and blocking followed by epoxy and top coat. Too late now, I am on a path. I think it will come out ok (at least I hope so), its just in the current state I am seeing every imperfection.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)