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Title: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on March 03, 2010 - 08:12:29 pm
Hi folks. I've been following quite a few of your projects here, so I thought I'd start one of my own. I have quite a bit of tear- down and some repairs done already, but I think I'll start from the Start. Wish me luck!
Here's when I bought it:
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/2.jpg)
Here's at the beginning of teardown:
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/15.jpg)
Here's what it looks like today:
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/46.jpg)
I've done quite a few rust patches / repairs in the process, will post them here later.
Mike.
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Post by: mcgheejt on March 03, 2010 - 08:19:39 pm
That looks like one Challenging project.  Good luck and keep us informed of your progress. 
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Post by: Challenger III on March 04, 2010 - 12:11:29 pm
Working on the right side. rebuilt the rear of the inner rocker, front lower wheelhouse and fender lip. Didn't have anything to go by, so I shot from the hip. This entire area was gone from rust.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/55-1.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/54.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/58.jpg)
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Post by: Jimmy on March 04, 2010 - 01:10:20 pm
Nice looking work. My Challenger came with that same hood restraining device!!! And here I thought it was rare!  :bigsmile:
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Post by: dutch on March 04, 2010 - 01:36:24 pm
nice work on the rocker repair  :2thumbs:    serious project you`ve got there....  :jumping:   keep going, in the end there`s just sweetness to harvest  :burnout: :bigshades:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 04, 2010 - 01:42:33 pm
Nice looking work. My Challenger came with that same hood restraining device!!! And here I thought it was rare!  :bigsmile:
Thanks.. Yep, we are the fortunate ones to have the "antique european sportcar hood tie downs" option.  :clapping: Started working on this mess last night. Whoever removed the roof skin used a cutoff wheel and a crow bar. That, with the rust outs, is another area I have to guess what it needs to look like when it's finished.


(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/59.jpg)
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Post by: burdar on March 04, 2010 - 01:54:17 pm
Try to copy/paist the "img" link instead of the "http" one you've been using on your photobucket pics.

Good luck with the car. :thumbsup:   
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Post by: Challenger III on March 04, 2010 - 03:10:12 pm
nice work on the rocker repair  :2thumbs:    serious project you`ve got there....  :jumping:   keep going, in the end there`s just sweetness to harvest  :burnout: :bigshades:
Thanks, Dutch. I hope to end up with something nice when it's done. Having lots of fun getting it there!
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Post by: Challenger III on March 05, 2010 - 11:31:44 am
I think I got the rear half of the right side window frame done last night :dunno:. the drip rail seems to fit o.k.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100304_223655.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/60.jpg)
Heading into the weekend... I plan on getting alot done. I have the same stuff to do to the other side of the car.
Mike
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Post by: femtnmax on March 06, 2010 - 10:34:44 pm
Looks like a great project.  What engine/trans?  Was that a dana rear axle, or... keep us posted.
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Post by: Challenger III on March 08, 2010 - 12:42:11 pm
Looks like a great project.  What engine/trans?  Was that a dana rear axle, or... keep us posted.
The car was a 318 / 904 with 7.25 rear. It was also originally an S.E. Have a 410 Dana 60 Power Lok on the floor next to the car. Going the 426 fuel inj. and 6 speed route. Also changing the suspension front and rear .... once I have a body to work with, that is! Honestly cant wait to get into the mechanical part of the project. I'm not a body man.
Got more repairs done over the weekend. Fixed the structure over the right side windows and made a quarter window pivot channel.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/64.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/65.jpg)
Learned a valuable lesson.... Wire wheel everything clean in the area you are working! Did some patch work, and when I thought I was finished, wire wheeled the surrounding area and found more holes. Won't do that again! :swear:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 15, 2010 - 11:36:46 am
More progress. Rebuilt the back of the rear wheelhouses and the back 1/3rd of the package tray. Starting to get the hang of this! :crazy:
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/66.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/67.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/68.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/69.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/70.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/71.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/72.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/73.jpg)
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Post by: dutch on March 15, 2010 - 01:19:48 pm
 :bigshades: :2thumbs:
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Post by: Eastwood Company on March 15, 2010 - 01:47:48 pm
Looks like the wire wheel and welder are you best friends for the next couple months. Good start!
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Post by: Challenger III on March 15, 2010 - 04:50:23 pm
Thanks again for the encouragement!
Looks like the wire wheel and welder are you best friends for the next couple months. Good start!
When I fall asleep at night I can still see my grinder and my mig gun!
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Post by: wagesofsin on March 15, 2010 - 07:32:56 pm
Thanks again for the encouragement!  When I fall asleep at night I can still see my grinder and my mig gun!


looking good, but you aint into it till all ya can taste is steel all the time.


 :2thumbs:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 16, 2010 - 12:53:35 pm
Thanks! I see I have something to look forward to. Found part of a quarter panel in my Kleenex this morning! :smilielol:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 22, 2010 - 04:58:31 pm
Finished the rocker and roof structure repairs on the driver's side. Repaired the A-Pillars (will post pics soon - tested my patience a little on that little project!) Ready to slap on a little POR and start hanging panels. :working:
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Post by: wagesofsin on March 22, 2010 - 08:41:29 pm
Finished the rocker and roof structure repairs on the driver's side. Repaired the A-Pillars (will post pics soon - tested my patience a little on that little project!) Ready to slap on a little POR and start hanging panels. :working:



cant wait to see the progress!!   :2thumbs:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 29, 2010 - 02:43:18 pm
More progress! Drivers side roof structure, Rocker repair, A-pillars, Drip rails and panel test fit. Had to knock off the lower windshield corners temporarily because I found a s!@#t load of more work to do!  :bricks1: Used the rain gutter trim to locate the drip rails. Worked out really well! :woo:
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/74.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/76.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/77.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/79.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/80.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/82.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/87.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/86.jpg)
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Post by: Canadian Cuda on March 29, 2010 - 05:14:47 pm
looking real good. keep at her :working:
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Post by: rtgambit on March 29, 2010 - 08:12:34 pm
Awesome progress! Keep it up!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 30, 2010 - 12:00:59 pm
Thank you, guys.  :wave: Test fit the deck lid last night because I'd been hearing horror stories about AMD quarter panels being too short, etc. Perfect fit!  :clapping: I will hafe to do a little movement at the tail panel flange, and do a slight adjustment at the door seam above the body line (both sides). I think it will be pretty simple. (http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100329_214038.jpg)
Here's to AMD!  :cheers: If a novice like me can do this, they must have something going on!
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Post by: Challenger III on April 01, 2010 - 12:05:21 pm
More progress!!! I've been busting my a$$ for the past couple of days and finally finished my restoration. Got quite a few looks in town on my "Maiden Voyage"!  :2thumbs: I hope you all approve!

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/AMCPacer.jpg)
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Post by: dutch on April 01, 2010 - 01:56:35 pm
you built the Pacer...? They are weired looking cars...  :grinyes:
 I love èm since Waynes World....  :ylsuper: :bananasmi
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Post by: barracuda7199 on April 01, 2010 - 02:07:41 pm
pacer's are to cool!  :bigshades: did anybody see the purple that went on the power tour? it had a jeep 4.0 and fuel injection it was sweet!!!
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Post by: Street_Challenged73 on April 01, 2010 - 02:12:03 pm
Very nice progress with your restoration! :cheers: :grinyes:
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Post by: Canadian Cuda on April 01, 2010 - 04:58:39 pm
i'm probably picking up an amc eagle hatchback. it pretty much a 4 wheel drive pacer. theyre so ugly they're cool  :burnout:
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Post by: Challenger III on April 01, 2010 - 05:56:09 pm
 :bigsmile:
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Post by: IMNCARN82 on April 01, 2010 - 06:53:11 pm
Looks good dude :smokin:      We had 2 Gremlins. 1 purple,1 green. Ha.     
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Post by: Challenger III on April 02, 2010 - 11:55:20 am
I hope everyone had a good April 1st! Got most of the car ready for final panel welding. Used weld through primer before attatching drip rails.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/89.jpg)
Cleaned and por 15 except places for future welds.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/90.jpg)
Weld through primer on weld surfaces.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/91.jpg)
Fit trunk floor.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/92-1.jpg)
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Post by: MoparCar on April 02, 2010 - 10:24:33 pm
Looks great! I'm at the same spot in my build. I decided to mini tub and notch the frame for 335-345 tires so a little more work but very close to the same progress. I had to rebuild the unibody structure under the roof also. New skin too. Are you going to weld the skin or use panel bonding adhesive? There are a lot of people using panel bond adhesive for roof skins so you don't have all the plug welds in the drip rail. Any thoughts? Nice progress!

Wes
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Post by: CHALLENGERRON on April 04, 2010 - 12:55:59 am
CHALLENGER III , I see my future in your pictures !  GREAT Job  :cheers: :working:
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Post by: Challenger III on April 05, 2010 - 12:18:53 pm
Thanks for the encouragement guys! Wes, I welded the roof skin on due to the fact that I'm more comfortable with my welding than I am with "more advanced" body work methods. Plus, I don't own enough clamps to panel bond.  :lol: I look forward to seeing your results!
More progress: Finally welded the panels in  :woohoo: I will show how I got the contour of the QP to match the door: You can see here the slight difference.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/95.jpg)
Here's the notches I put in to move the contour.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/96.jpg)
Here's the final fit.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/97.jpg)
I might be doing this different than I should, but it seems to work.  :dunno: I do know it takes me a LOT longer than it would take anyone else! Fit the tail panel late last night before welding the roof skin and area around rear window.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/98.jpg)
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Post by: dutch on April 11, 2010 - 09:04:12 am
lookin good.  just take your time to get the panels lined up nicely...   :bigshades:
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Post by: mopar12372 on April 11, 2010 - 02:38:32 pm
you are doing a great job , more pictures please!! :working:
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Post by: Challenger III on April 16, 2010 - 11:49:41 am
Top and quarters are all welded in. Put on the old deck lid to check my work. I managed to salvage the old gas tank braces and welded them to the trunk floor. Lots and lots of holes to drill for the floor! I will weld that in tonight.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/99.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100415_201255.jpg)
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Post by: rtgambit on April 17, 2010 - 09:48:32 am
I managed to salvage the old gas tank braces and welded them to the trunk floor. Lots and lots of holes to drill for the floor!

 :iagree:  I remember doing mine, lots of time with the drill and welder for sure!

Looking great, btw! Keep at 'er!
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Post by: Challenger III on April 19, 2010 - 01:03:55 pm
Everything welded in!  :cheers: Trunk floor, drop offs and tail panel. I'm finally out of parts.  :money: Next comes floor panels.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/102.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/104.jpg)
I'll post some more pictures with detail later.
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Post by: dutch on April 19, 2010 - 01:14:10 pm
   
  :bigshades:     PROGRESS   :bigshades:
 
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Post by: thesado on April 19, 2010 - 04:55:30 pm
nice project!  Makes me look forward to mine someday.  Keep it up!
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Post by: Samuelson1022 on April 19, 2010 - 09:38:09 pm
You are right this car does look very similar
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Post by: R/T hedkace on April 28, 2010 - 12:51:26 pm
 Hey Mike, finally made it to your resto thread  :jumping:
Dude........how the hell did you get so much work done in such a little amount of time?!?  :clapping: :worshippy
And this is coming from someone who says.....and I quote you............

" I'm not a body man"
"Starting to get the hang of this!"
" If a novice like me can do this"
"I do know it takes me a LOT longer than it would take anyone else"

You are FAR too modest Mike.
Your doing one hell of a great job, and I really appreciate the way you described what and how you did it.
I have learnt, (yes that's still a word Steve/quap  :poopoke: )
a ton from your posts already  :2thumbs: and really glad that you used an outside image host too, so many can learn from you in the future without the next cleanup around here wiping your pics out  :thumbsup:

 If you have any additional pics of you side roof structure/drip rail install, PLEASE feel free to put them up whenever you get a chance.
Like I said before, we definitely share identical Chally's  :scared:

Keep up the kick @ss work man  :cheers:
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Post by: Challenger III on April 29, 2010 - 08:54:26 pm
 :) Thanks Jeff and others for your kind words of encouragement... They really mean a lot! Seriously, I've never tried this before (I'm a boiler mechanic by trade) other than a Quarter Panel swap on my '71 around 27 years ago (boy I feel sorry for the guy that ended up with that car... I hope it wasn't anyone here!).
My '71 when I was 19 years old:
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/tran_1520100404204029.jpg)
Two years later after a couple of wrecks: Notice the gold QP. No it wasn't all welded in. filled the trunk with water when it rained. (No the 442 didnt get the launch, we were staging) Worn out photo!
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100428_171228.jpg)
Here you go, Jeff.
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/61.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100304_223655.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/62.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/74-1.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/75.jpg)(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/76-1.jpg)
The recessed groovy thing on the structure was done by overlapping 2 pieces then welding. Looking back, I don't think the extra work was necessary. Fit your drip rail by attatching the stainless trim to locate the rail. Works really well, the top fit great!
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Post by: R/T hedkace on May 06, 2010 - 12:46:46 pm
 Awesome!
Thanks a bunch Mike  :2thumbs:

Every pic I see is giving me a better grasp on my nightmare.
Love the oldschool pics too  :ylsuper:
 That'd be funny if your old 71 Chally ended up in the hands of a member here, and they put pics of your quarter panel "fix" in the "hack job pictures" section  :lol2:

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=55886.0


 Thanks again for the additional pics there Mike.
Really appreciate it dude  :cheers:
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Post by: bigblock4speedman on May 25, 2010 - 04:30:50 am
Man, I'm impressed!!!!!  That's a LOT of work!  It looks like you did it real good too. Gives me hope for when I get back on my Barracuda I have had for over 20 years.  I love that car, but neglected to stop the cancer that rusted her down in so many places!  Thanks for being an inspiration and shareing all this killer work we can see, and learn from.  Looking forward to more progress and pictures!
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Post by: Challenger III on May 25, 2010 - 10:04:25 am
Thanks! One thing at a time is all it takes. Quite a bit of satisfaction when you look back at your work. I've been busy making a support frame for under the car so I can replace floors. I will put some pictures up as soon as the floor is out.
Good luck on the Cuda! Looks like you have a good car to work with (I'm not afraid of rust anymore  :lol: ) I hope to see you get a thread started here when you get to it!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Topcat on May 25, 2010 - 10:28:47 am
 Making great progress.

I was looking at how you got the door edge contours corrected earlier. Good trick I need to do also.
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Post by: femtnmax on May 31, 2010 - 09:02:55 pm
Your doing a great job.  The fit of the rear qtr to door, every car must be unique...my AMD fit the door contour real well with very little fuss.
When I used the POR15 on bare metal, I rough sanded the metal with 50-80 grit, but the POr still would not stick very well.  Ended up using 2-part etching primer then POR. 

It's good to see all these old mopars getting rebuilt and distanced from the crusher. 
Keep up the good work.  :2thumbs:

I lived in Yakima in the mid 70"s. Spent 2 years at taking the YVCC auto tech program.   How's the town doing these days?
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Post by: Challenger III on June 01, 2010 - 10:30:52 am
When I used the POR15 on bare metal, I rough sanded the metal with 50-80 grit, but the POr still would not stick very well.  Ended up using 2-part etching primer then POR. 

I lived in Yakima in the mid 70"s. Spent 2 years at taking the YVCC auto tech program.   How's the town doing these days?
I rough sanded then used metal etch. I've seen a lot of problems on this board with POR 15. I didn't have any problems at all.  :dunno:
A lot of the retail business in Yakima has moved to Union Gap, due to a more business friendly city government. There was a major downtown renovation project that took place in the last few years. Other than that it is probably relatively unchanged. Construction and Agriculture businesses not hit hard here by recession.... Yet!  :o
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Post by: dutch on June 15, 2010 - 11:39:37 am
....any progress mike...?  :popcorn:
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Post by: Challenger III on June 15, 2010 - 06:50:07 pm
....any progress mike...?  :popcorn:
  :grinyes:  :naughty: Yep.... Film at eleven.
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Post by: dutch on June 15, 2010 - 07:05:17 pm
 :eek7:  :faint:   c`mon buddy.... stop playing with yer dreadlocks.....  :biggrin:
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Post by: Sean on June 15, 2010 - 07:37:06 pm
Yeah man, quit holding out on us!  Let us know what you've been up to!!!   :2thumbs:

Sean
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Post by: Canadian Cuda on June 15, 2010 - 08:09:36 pm
 :popcorn:
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Post by: Topcat on June 15, 2010 - 08:27:49 pm
 :popcorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXGhvoekY44
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Post by: Chlngrcrzy on August 15, 2010 - 08:24:31 pm
 :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :popcorn:
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Post by: Challenger III on November 27, 2010 - 07:53:19 pm
O.K. folks..... Back at it! I have the car in the air and supported. Dash, column, doors, etc are all off. Here's some pics of what I'm up against. I'm actually taking a break from chopping out the floors as I'm writing this.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/114.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/113.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/109.jpg)

More pictures after the floors are out!  :working:
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Post by: Challenger III on November 28, 2010 - 08:51:59 pm
Progress!

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/116.jpg)
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Post by: Sean on November 28, 2010 - 09:03:40 pm
Looking good, Mike!  You're just a few steps ahead of me.  OK, maybe more than a few but I'm not too far behind where you are.  I'll be redoing the floor after I get the back end sheetmetal on.

Keepu up the good work!

Sean
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Post by: Challenger III on November 28, 2010 - 09:11:04 pm
Looking good, Mike!  You're just a few steps ahead of me.  OK, maybe more than a few but I'm not too far behind where you are.  I'll be redoing the floor after I get the back end sheetmetal on.

Keepu up the good work!

Sean

You betcha, Buddy! I've been keeping an eye on your work (Awesome!). It won't be long and we can show everyone up at some show somewhere!  :lol:
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Post by: Sean on November 28, 2010 - 09:33:47 pm
You betcha, Buddy! I've been keeping an eye on your work (Awesome!). It won't be long and we can show everyone up at some show somewhere!  :lol:

LOL!   I'm with ya on that!  My is my first build too.  We're a couple newb's at this and we're gonna turn the heads of the weathered pros!!!   :drunk:

Sean

   
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Post by: DoNotChallengeHer on December 04, 2010 - 02:25:38 pm
wow, that is amazing how much work you're got done.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Challenger III on December 04, 2010 - 07:54:16 pm
wow, that is amazing how much work you're got done.  :2thumbs:
Thanks! When I look back I can agree, but looking ahead it doesn't seem like it.  :lol:

Spending the day drilling spot welds and cleaning everything for the new floor.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/119.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/120.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/121.jpg)

VERY time consuming, but I'm getting quite a bit done today (Sat). Planning on tackling more tomorrow so I can start  patching some nice new rust holes I found:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/124.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/123.jpg)
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Post by: Cooter on December 04, 2010 - 08:38:23 pm
Mike, I love watching your progress...Very nice...You will have one helluva Challenger when done, and done correctly...Keep on keepin' on bro...
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Post by: Topcat on December 04, 2010 - 08:56:21 pm
Doing great.

Oh boy! I don't miss those days of grinding metal. Went to the hospital a couple times with metal fragments in my eye. Or my ear ringing afterwards even though I wore hearing protection head phones. My inner ear was messed up was why. Anyway, just be careful not to overdo it and keep a good pace.
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Post by: mopar12372 on December 04, 2010 - 09:15:53 pm
he great job as top cat says i dont miss those fringing days well because im still grinding . you are makeing great progress!! :working:
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Post by: dutch on December 05, 2010 - 09:51:30 am
good to see you`re back at it Mike  :2thumbs:  just keep on drinking with all that dust...  :cheers: :drunk:
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Post by: cudadave72 on December 05, 2010 - 09:40:38 pm
Coming along nicely!! :2thumbs:
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Post by: Sean on December 05, 2010 - 11:18:41 pm
Motivating work you're doing there Mike!!!  Keep it up!   :bigshades:

I've been working on the body of mine for 2 years now, I'll be happy to get to another part of the car!!!   :roflsmiley:

Sean
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Post by: Challenger III on January 03, 2011 - 01:38:27 pm
I'm still making progress, but nothing really exciting. Lots of cleaning and patching. Trying to decide whether to repair my trans crossmember, or to just replace it.  :dunno:  :clueless: Maybe I'll start repairing it and see how it goes. Here is a rear seat pan repair I'm attempting right now....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/125.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/126.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/127.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/128.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/129.jpg)

I cut slots in the patch and made the ribs out of 5/8" o.d. tubing, split with a skinny wheel. I deleted the body plug hole thingy. Didn't think I needed the extra place for water to leak through. I'll do the same with the driver's side (the patch won't need to be as large there).
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Post by: 1970RTSE on January 03, 2011 - 05:00:39 pm
Here is a trick I used for making those little ribs in the floor pan.  I used a ball peen hammer and placed the sheet metal over an open vise.  You can work the metal into the half round shapes and if you do little at a time, not rip through. 
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Post by: Challenger III on January 03, 2011 - 07:32:35 pm
Here is a trick I used for making those little ribs in the floor pan.  I used a ball peen hammer and placed the sheet metal over an open vise.  You can work the metal into the half round shapes and if you do little at a time, not rip through. 
Thanks. I'll have to try that and see.

good to see you`re back at it Mike  :2thumbs:  just keep on drinking with all that dust...  :cheers: :drunk:
Haven't been having beers while working on the car lately, Bart. Hard to get the bottle around the dust mask!  :icon16: Too cold for beer anyway!  :grinno: :cheers:
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Post by: dutch on January 04, 2011 - 09:15:19 am
I had a boss once who cut a hole for his sigar in his weldinghelmet....  :thinkerg:
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Post by: RusTy/SE on January 04, 2011 - 11:16:57 am
Ha! I just had a mental picture of Dick Landy doing some welding... :smokin:
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Post by: Challenger III on January 14, 2011 - 06:43:01 pm
Slow progress, but I'm getting something done. Working on driver side rear seat pan. Here's how the passenger side turned out.....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/130.jpg)

I know, I'm off to buy a camera.  More over the weekend.  :working:
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Post by: mopar12372 on January 16, 2011 - 08:44:36 pm
eather way the work that you have done is good work. 
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Post by: Challenger III on January 17, 2011 - 12:04:22 am
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate that! Looks we've both been busy this weekend. I made it a little further on my rear seat pan project. I tried to form ribs in a chunk of sheetmetal with a ballpeen hammer, but I couldn't keep my patch panel from warping badly, so I'll do the tubing method again. Here's what I got done this weekend:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/DSC_0006.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/DSC_0007.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/132.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/137.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/138.jpg)

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Post by: mopar12372 on January 17, 2011 - 05:19:40 pm
 :2thumbs:ya know when i was makeing my peaces for the floor betewwn the wheel tubs and the floor i thought i could buy a complete floor again . it was alot less expensive fore me to make and  weld in a peace (not stock ) looks good and works and thats all that matters .
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Post by: Challenger III on January 17, 2011 - 05:54:57 pm
 :iagree: I was actually planning on replacing this whole under seat section, originally, but decided to put my foot down and keep at least one original part of the car!  :roflsmiley: The welding and cutting is no problem to me, but the cleaning and patch fitting is very time consuming.
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Post by: mopar12372 on January 17, 2011 - 07:00:21 pm
thats funny  :lol:
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Post by: Challenger III on January 20, 2011 - 10:15:40 pm
A little more done over the week:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/140.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/145.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/147.jpg)

 :working:
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Post by: dutch on January 21, 2011 - 03:16:23 am
nice work.  that`s a PITA to grind down....  :bricks1:
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Post by: mojavered on January 21, 2011 - 08:36:06 am
Keep it up!  Many people do not have the ability (or patience) to do that.  Can't wait to see the finished goods. 
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Post by: R/T hedkace on January 25, 2011 - 02:39:18 pm
Inspirational works as usual Mike.
Great frigging job man  :clapping: :thumbsup:

It's funny how you can look at a before and after pic of a section so easily, but then you realize how much time was put into cutting out the old, finding a piece of steel to use, bending, twisting and forming that piece to fit just right, cleaning the steel, tacking it in place, grinding the welds down, protecting the steel, etc....etc...etc........  :crazy: :swear: :stomp: :pullinghair: :banghead:  :faint:

It's it truly a labor of love for those who go through it, and it's pretty damn cool when you get down to it.
Many will never understand it  :clueless: :screwy:
Few will feel the gratification it gives you  :bigshades:

And this is coming from someone whos Chally is in 6,000,000,000,000,000 pieces  :crying: :roflsmiley:

 Keep it up Mike. I really appreciate the way you explain exactly what you have done.
It has helped me get a better grasp on the bigger picture  :cheers:
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Post by: Challenger III on January 25, 2011 - 05:01:30 pm
Good to hear from you again Jeff! You are right, looking at the big picture is what it takes to get a guy through a project like this. If you only look at the work you are doing at a certain time it's easy to get overwhelmed!  :bricks1:

Here's a little more I got done (both sides):

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/152.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/153.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/154.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/155.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/156.jpg)

That's about it for the rear seat pan other a little clean up underneath. Moving to the trans crossmember and inner rockers.  :faint: (Yes, the little hole in the floor is fixed now)
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Post by: mopar12372 on January 26, 2011 - 02:27:14 am
17 more patches and its done. oh and dont forget the other 100 other hidden ones :poopoke:
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Post by: Challenger III on January 26, 2011 - 11:20:53 am
17 more patches and its done. oh and dont forget the other 100 other hidden ones :poopoke:
  :lol: How true!  :faint:
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Post by: dutch on January 26, 2011 - 01:16:19 pm
no worries Mike. you`re doing a great job, just keep going till you drive that awesome beast, that everybody wants, around town...  :bigshades: :burnout: :woo:
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Post by: Challenger III on January 26, 2011 - 04:05:01 pm
Thanks a bunch Bart! I'm pretty motivated right now and realize that if I get past the shell and bodywork, everything left will be gravy!  :crazy:  Looking forward to when I'm as far along as you are!  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Topcat on January 26, 2011 - 10:11:17 pm
Thanks a bunch Bart! I'm pretty motivated right now and realize that if I get past the shell and bodywork, everything left will be gravy!  :crazy:  Looking forward to when I'm as far along as you are!  :2thumbs:

Keep up the good work Mike.  :2thumbs:

Wait till you get where I'm at. So close on bodywork you can taste it but so hesitant to say "it's good and I'm done". That's a scary feeling. Just one more block and then just one more. Wait, I need to be sure.
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Post by: Challenger III on January 26, 2011 - 11:15:01 pm
Thanks so much Mike! I'm glad you are getting close to paint. I'm also glad you are being so cautious. Some people who look at my work, ask why I'm trying so hard to make it look as right as I can when no one will ever see it after everything is put back together. The problem is, I'll know if my car is hacked together... can't do it!
This is a heck of a lot more work than I envisioned, but I am not put out at all. I'm learning a bunch, and having a ball!  :2thumbs:

Can't wait to see your 'cuda in paint.... keep it up, then take a weekend and get some fishing in!

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Post by: DoNotChallengeHer on January 30, 2011 - 06:39:21 pm
Mike, Your doing a great job.  :2thumbs:  Keep it up.  :cheers:
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Post by: jimynick on January 30, 2011 - 11:18:40 pm
Mike, a couple of things- I believe you said you weren't a bodyman in an earlier post; forget that, you sure as Hell ARE, now! The other thing is to say thanks for doing and showing/sharing what you've done; I think that mine is pretty rough and a slog and you're inspiring me to keep my head down and keep going, that there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks man and I'm looking forward to seeing the car done. Roll on! :clapping:
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Post by: Cooter on January 30, 2011 - 11:28:40 pm
Mike, I've said this one before here, but just remember why you are doing what you are doing...Afterall, if it was a simple engine swap or a trans swap, you wouldn't be having all the fun your having now...


Again, One helluva job..I know all too well about patching rust before you can get to the "fun" things...

Keep on keepin' on bro. I applaude your effort in choosing to repair rather than replace, as most woulda just swapped in a replacement pan...?It takes a certain kinda person to do what you are doing...Well done, well done......
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Post by: Challenger III on February 13, 2011 - 12:31:30 am
Thanks Jackie, Jimynick and Cooter! I really appreciate all the kind comments. Still moving along... This is something else I haven't been looking forward to. I decided to try and save my transmission crossmember. I bought a chunk of 12ga. sheetmetal, cut out some "Paper dolls" out of poster board and hit up my long time companion "Grinder". Here's what I have done so far. I plan on having this finished by the end of the weekend.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/169.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/177.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/184.jpg)

More soon....
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Post by: Final Challenge on February 13, 2011 - 11:06:53 am
You are a better man than I am.  It almost seems like there is nothing that you can't do.

Keep up the faith and the extremely good work!
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Post by: usraptr on February 13, 2011 - 12:59:50 pm
You are a better man than I am.  It almost seems like there is nothing that you can't do.

Keep up the faith and the extremely good work!

 :iagree: Great work!  :2thumbs:   I would have passed on this car with all the work that you've had to do.   :scared:
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Post by: Challenger III on February 17, 2011 - 11:50:03 pm
Thank you Final Challenge and usraptr. My encouragement comes from everyone's kind comments, and from seeing the progress of projects like both of yours. I am sure my car is "save-able".... now!  :lol: To me, this is just a bunch of fun now that I have some repairs under my belt. My crossmember repair is pretty much finished, other than cleaning up some welds. I used tubing for the pass throughs for the E-Brake cable, brake line and fuel line.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/188.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/189.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/191.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/192.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/197.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/198.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/199.jpg)

More soon!  :working:
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Post by: dutch on February 18, 2011 - 03:03:39 am
nice repairwork Mike  :2thumbs:  I see you welded tube in there, but what are your plans for the torsionbars?   :clueless:  :popcorn:
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Post by: Challenger III on February 18, 2011 - 10:25:15 am
what are your plans for the torsionbars?   
There aren't going to be any torsion bars on this car, my friend.
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Post by: dutch on February 18, 2011 - 11:06:08 am
awesome  :smokin:
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Post by: mopar12372 on February 18, 2011 - 10:28:34 pm
and i are going to like this car for sure!!! :wavingflag:
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Post by: Cooter on February 20, 2011 - 08:46:54 am
Dang Mike....I think you are being modest when you say you are "New" to this stuff..Looks like you been doing this a while..Crossmember looks amazing.. And here ithought my own Chally was rough. Your thread should serve as a reminder to all who think their car/ a car is too far gone...Excellent work!
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Post by: 'Cuda Hunter on February 20, 2011 - 02:22:34 pm
I have to agree with Cooter.

That is some nice work you have there.  Can't wait to see more.
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Post by: 70shaker6pk on February 20, 2011 - 08:26:13 pm
I too want to say awesome work!!!!!  thanks for posting great pictures!!!!!!
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Post by: Challenger III on February 20, 2011 - 11:25:26 pm
Thanks again guys! This is my first time this deep into one. My dad had me welding at 8 yrs old (a few weeks ago  :icon16:) and I bought my first car at 15. I've done only engine and mechanical work, maybe a couple 20 ply bondo jobs here and there. I was a suspension / alignment / tune-up mechanic at "drive by automotive" prior to the navy. I haven't even played with cars for around 15 years, got into Harleys and ski boats. I do quite a bit of fabrication in my refrigeration and boiler repair business. I also have been repairing this car for a year now!  :lol: Enough of that  :blah: :blah:....

Got a little more done this weekend. Banged out a pretty nasty jack dent out of my rocker and did a little more minor patching. Dressed up my new crossmember.


(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/201.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/203.jpg)

 :working:
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Post by: Mentally Challenged on February 22, 2011 - 02:26:34 am
Nice looking work.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: 1970bumblebee on February 26, 2011 - 12:11:06 pm
That is one hell of a project! But by the looks of it your doing a great job! Keep up the good work
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Post by: mapandjlp on February 27, 2011 - 08:22:08 am
Very nice work!  What type of welder are you using?
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Post by: Challenger III on February 27, 2011 - 02:16:22 pm
Thanks again guys!
What type of welder are you using?
Here's my welder of choice (at least for this type of work)..... http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200328799_200328799

 :working:
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Post by: Challenger III on February 27, 2011 - 05:53:33 pm
Not a heck of a lot of work done this week due to being pretty busy with my job. I pretty much finished the driver side inner rocker and fabricated the forward seat brace. Working on the passenger side today (Sunday).

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/205.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/206.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/207.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/208.jpg)

 :working:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 01, 2011 - 01:14:30 am
This is next....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/100312_062604-1.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/210.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/211.jpg)

This is a repair of a TOTAL hack job by the previous owner, or agent of. This patch was made of 24ga. sheet metal and one of the ugliest things I've ever seen, other than a stray dog my ex took in years ago (I wouldn't invite guests to my house, I was so embarrased).... but that's another story!  :lol:
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Post by: dutch on March 01, 2011 - 06:57:22 am
 :22yikes:   seems holes are growing bigger and bigger on your car....  :1zhelp:
You`re a brave man Mike  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Challenger III on March 01, 2011 - 10:16:09 am
:22yikes:   seems holes are growing bigger and bigger on your car....  :1zhelp:
Getting to the end of it Bart!  :jumping: Notice how far forward on the car I am now. Will only have cleaning and very minor patching at the engine compartment area.
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Post by: Cooter on March 01, 2011 - 08:10:09 pm
'Ya know Mike, I used to be "ok" with what you and many others here would prolly consider "Hack jobs", as I was more concerned with function over form..However, I find myself striving to do my fab work to the level as you and many others are here. My boss the other day while I was repairing a Floorboard in a Plain 'ol Jeep as We don't usually do this type work, but the customer requested it be repaired "Correctly" as he had paid someone to do it before and they simply patched over rust. So anyway, the boss comes over and says "Hey, this ain't no resto job here, just get it through a sticker"....I replied "Hey, my name is on this as is yours and I want it to at least look like a professional did the work"..The Boss agreed and Allowed me to repair it my way....So, just when you think nobody studies your posts, think again they have a bigger effect than you think...
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Post by: Challenger III on March 01, 2011 - 08:16:07 pm
Thank you Cooter. That means a heck of alot.
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Post by: mopar12372 on March 01, 2011 - 09:12:07 pm
 :iagree:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on March 07, 2011 - 09:30:05 pm
:iagree:
Thanks Bill. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your progress.  :thumbsup:

A little update on my project:

Rocker repair:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/213.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/219.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/220.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/221.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/222.jpg)

Trial fit of the door hinge pillar:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/224.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/225.jpg)

I'm going to pull the new hinge pillar back off temporarily to do some firewall / cowl repairs. It's pretty easy to get around there right now!   :lol:
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Post by: barracuda7199 on March 07, 2011 - 09:40:53 pm
wow the work that u have put into that car!!! u sir are one skilled welder and fabricator!!!  :wow:  :clapping:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: mopar12372 on March 07, 2011 - 11:27:05 pm
had to take a little break but ill be back for more rust repair fun . you are takeing on alot more than me (im more of a cut and paste type  of guy  :smilielol: ) . saveing for qpanels . great work as always  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: usraptr on March 10, 2011 - 03:47:37 pm
wow the work that u have put into that car!!! u sir are one skilled welder and fabricator!!!  :wow:  :clapping:

 :iagree:  By the time you're done, you're going to have a new frame/body!   :bigsmile:  Great work, I would have passed on that  car.  Way beyond my abilities.   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on March 13, 2011 - 09:29:30 pm
Many thanks for the compliments. I did pass on this car once when I was searching for one. The price came down far enough it ended up on my trailer.  :screwy:

More progress made this week. Removed the cowl to gain access to the rest of the firewall. This will be a challenge, but I'm determined to fix this:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/226.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/227.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/232.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/233.jpg)

More soon.  :working:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: jimynick on March 13, 2011 - 10:52:02 pm
Mike, you've more than proved your abilities on this car, but there comes a time when you'd be hurting yourself not to take a hand in the repairs to this rust bucket. I thought mine was bad- and it is, but I went for the AMD firewall and it'll save me weeks of cutting and welding, only to have a patched up panel that God only knows where it'll rot through next. I don't doubt for a second your ability to Frankenstein this thing together, I just don't know why you wouldn't buy the panel and have a nicer repair. Your time must be worth something and it'd give the old mig a chance to cool down! You'll have to join the UAW if you don't take it easy.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on March 13, 2011 - 11:28:33 pm
 :roflsmiley: You have a good point! The upper area of the firewall is pretty bad now that I have it clean. The really nasty stuff that is readily visible in the pictures would be easy enough to patch, but there numerous pinholes over the entire upper area. Even in the metal that looks solid. I have been working on it for the past few hours since my last post and this is what I got...

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/234.jpg)

I'm going to sleep on it, I guess, and make a decision. There will probably 6 to 8 patches to get the major stuff, then probably a day with the brass paddle to get the pot holes.  :villagers:

I already have the new upper cowl. Hmmmmm!  :lol: :cheers:
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Post by: jimynick on March 14, 2011 - 12:02:51 am
That's what I was thinking. You'll spend days stitching the thing together and grinding, only to have some unseen pit rot through after you've put on your new cowl and pi$$ all into your dash and interior! Now THAT, would tick a guy off! It's money well spent, buddy! Bed time in Ontario!
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: dutch on April 07, 2011 - 04:43:13 pm
she ready for paint yet buddy?   :popcorn:  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 07, 2011 - 08:45:39 pm
she ready for paint yet buddy?   :popcorn:  :biggrin:
  :roflsmiley: Not quite yet my friend. Still hacking out the firewall. I'll post photos of my adventure in a couple of days. I did give myself an early birthday gift though:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/235.jpg)


 :working:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: mopar12372 on April 07, 2011 - 09:58:00 pm
wow nice b-day gift   :wavingflag:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: dutch on April 08, 2011 - 04:47:00 am
awesome  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: IMNCARN82 on April 08, 2011 - 12:05:46 pm
I tip my hat to you sir !       :faint:          As said,I'd get a new cowl. Don't waste your time with that mess.  Rust and thin metal don't make for good welds. The rocker looks great! You got the skill!  Keep up the good work! R/T
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 08, 2011 - 01:17:09 pm
wow nice b-day gift   :wavingflag:
A few of many b-day gifts I will give myself this spring!  :naughty:

As said,I'd get a new cowl. Don't waste your time with that mess.
Thanks! My new firewall, cowl and left inner fender panel are here and patiently waiting behind the car.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 24, 2011 - 04:41:20 pm
 :faint: It always looks at it's worst before it looks looks it's best......  Right?  :clueless:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/236.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/237.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/238.jpg)

 :working:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: barracuda7199 on April 24, 2011 - 07:44:19 pm
wow that is alot of work!! makes feel better bout my car thats some serious rust! but i havent dug into mine yet to find the hidden surprises!! u are one helluva a restorer.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Matt70 on April 24, 2011 - 07:58:44 pm
 :popcorn: Great work!   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Chlngrcrzy on April 24, 2011 - 09:45:22 pm
Mike, you are defiantly the MAN!   :worshippy. You find any hidden treasure in there. One of these days you will be done with the sheet metal and on to the next phase. Keep at it. I have been 4 years now, and hope to have it on the road before 5 years.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 24, 2011 - 10:44:14 pm
Thank you very much guys!

Looks like I have a bunch of welding to do tomorrow.....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/239.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/240.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/241.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/242.jpg)

 :jumping:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: cudaized on April 24, 2011 - 11:41:41 pm
:faint: It always looks at it's worst before it looks looks it's best......  Right?

And you sure are making it look it's best!  :thumbsup: Nice work.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: dutch on April 25, 2011 - 03:43:32 am
great way to spend your easter weekend  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: mopar12372 on April 25, 2011 - 09:39:25 pm
sheeeew i definately feel your pain!!!!!! i like it ha a total from the ground up build  gives me insentive to save for my q panels my last big project . THAT IS IF I DONT FIND MORE RUST!!! hahahahahahaha  :smilielol: E-BODY = RUST HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 25, 2011 - 09:43:32 pm
E-BODY = RUST HAHAHAHA
I heard you there Bill! Here a couple of weeks ago I thought I was getting close to the end of rust!  :grinno:  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: jimynick on April 25, 2011 - 09:50:26 pm
I should maybe call mine Neil Young, 'cause "rust never sleeps" in the sumbeech! But Mikey, you've got me beat!  :scared:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 25, 2011 - 09:57:27 pm
I should maybe call mine Neil Young, 'cause "rust never sleeps" in the sumbeech! But Mikey, you've got me beat!  :scared:
What the heck, I have "less" rust today than yesterday!  :lol: By the way, stand by for pics of the mods I had to do to the cowl sides and door hinge pillars. I'm sure each car will be different, but everyone should know these pieces don't just plug in.  :cheers:
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Post by: cudaized on April 25, 2011 - 10:25:26 pm
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 25, 2011 - 11:40:57 pm
Here are some photos showing a few minor adjustments I'm making before I weld in the firewall.

The first one shows the left cowl side where it meets the firewall, inside the car. As you can see, it's a great fit.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/246.jpg)

My primary concern in these repairs is the proper fit of the doors (of course!). On both sides I fit the doors a few times during the installation process.
I welded in the left panels prior to removing the old firewall and prepped everything for the new one to slide into place. Before I weld in the new firewall I will install the right side panels.

Here is the fit of the right cowl side in place with the door located:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/244.jpg)

I will alter the bottom of the new piece to take up the gap shown.

Here is inside the car looking up into the corner. You can see where the firewall hits the cowl side before I can mate it to the windshield area:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/243.jpg)

Here is looking down at the lower corner of the windshield frame. I will trim the new piece where it touches to make everything fit tighter:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/245.jpg)
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Post by: mopar12372 on April 26, 2011 - 02:16:00 am
hell the factory would have welded it together then put a10 pounds of seam sealer .  :smilielol:
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Post by: bigblock4speedman on April 26, 2011 - 06:01:03 am
Excellent work!  You're a very skilled man in the art of metalwork!!!  My cowl and trunk floor are the rusty parts of my Challenger, the rest is solid.  I cut a good cowl out of a parts car, I think that by looking at how you did this will give me some direction in repairing my cowl, thanks!  I have been putting it off for a LONG time.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Cooter on April 26, 2011 - 07:01:51 am
Dang mike, you must really love that challenger, as most woulda parted that heap. I'm still amazed at how well you work. I think the door jambs and one inner fender is about the only stock sheetmetal left at this point...Good on 'ya brother.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: jimynick on April 26, 2011 - 08:55:50 pm
Mike, I wonder if the gap between the hinge plr and the floor/cowl is due to the fact that you fit the doors so they don't have the oem 1/2" gaps and that caused the hinge plr to be farther back? Who cares, that is the way the car should have been built in the first place and a minor annoyance at this stage of the game! I'm stalled waiting for a lock plr to carry on fitting my 1/4s and you're making fantastic progress. You've learned the big secret of bodywork- if it doesn't fit, WHY doesn't it and what do I have to do to MAKE it fit. Coming VERY nicely, man; very nicely! :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: cudaized on April 29, 2011 - 08:46:50 am
Challenger III,
Are you using a Mig, Tig, or Oxy/Acc?
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on April 29, 2011 - 06:45:08 pm
Challenger III,
Are you using a Mig, Tig, or Oxy/Acc?
I'm using a mig welder.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Sean on April 29, 2011 - 09:25:00 pm
Man Mike, she sure is coming along!  Keep up the good work!!!

Sean
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Raw Untamed on July 07, 2011 - 09:14:47 pm
 :popcorn:

Make any progress lately?  I love this thread.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: AARuFAST on July 07, 2011 - 10:48:14 pm
I'm using a mig welder.  :cheers:

You are one bad a$$ wizard with a magic mig and fabricator, GoodGAlmighty.
 :cheers: You brought it back from the dead.


Gran Coupe Convertible

 
////////////  CUDA AAR

AARuFAST
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: mopar12372 on July 07, 2011 - 10:56:57 pm
by the time he gets back to the car all that will be left is a pile of rust  :roflsmiley:......

 pictures plz :useless:
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Post by: dutch on July 08, 2011 - 12:55:44 pm
 :clueless:  ......april 30.......       :jumping:
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Post by: Challenger III on July 08, 2011 - 08:07:22 pm
 :sleeping:  :roflsmiley: I have a little bit more done, but I've been moving into a new place. I need to finish welding everything together so I can move it into my new garage.....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/0601112004a.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/0513111948a.jpg)

 :woo:  :cheers:
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Post by: mopar12372 on July 08, 2011 - 08:12:25 pm
yeeeeaaaaa!!!!!
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: MEK-Dangerfield on July 08, 2011 - 09:02:39 pm
Nice place you got there.    :2thumbs:
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Post by: Mentally Challenged on July 09, 2011 - 02:24:16 am
I want that garage  :stomp:  :roflsmiley:
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Post by: dutch on July 09, 2011 - 05:41:10 am
holy sh!t!!!   dude, that looks better than my house!  :bananasmi  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Chlngrcrzy on July 09, 2011 - 07:46:49 pm
I think it is bigger than my house.  Nice shop. Its been on my list for a few years also, but i got to get this car done first.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: mojavered on July 10, 2011 - 12:33:24 pm
Jealous!
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: cmg on September 30, 2011 - 01:34:31 pm
:sleeping:  :roflsmiley: I have a little bit more done, but I've been moving into a new place. I need to finish welding everything together so I can move it into my new garage.....

([url]http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/0601112004a.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/0513111948a.jpg[/url])

 :woo:  :cheers:

Do you ever go to the car show at McDonalds on 40th by fred myers? We (my husband and me) plan on going tonight and would like to meet ya
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Post by: dutch on September 30, 2011 - 06:28:20 pm
If you meet the guy, tell him to post some updates....  :jumping:

 :useless: :useless:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on September 30, 2011 - 06:48:35 pm
Do you ever go to the car show at McDonalds on 40th by fred myers? We (my husband and me) plan on going tonight and would like to meet ya
  :wave: Can't make it tonight, but we'll have to arrange a meeting soon. Do you have an E-Body? You should post in the newbie section and introduce yourself.  :cheers: I'm always looking forward to meeting local fellow mopar fans!

If you meet the guy, tell him to post some updates....  :jumping:

 :useless: :useless:

 Patience my friend....  Lots of updates very soon!  :working:
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Post by: brads70 on September 30, 2011 - 06:54:12 pm
I want that garage  :stomp:  :roflsmiley:


 :iagree:   Wow! I'm jealous!  :grinyes:

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu240/B_Richmond/PDRM0881.jpg)
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Post by: cmg on October 01, 2011 - 02:45:53 am
Lol yeah I wanna see some of what he's done in person. My challenger is no where near that but he has done some of what we need to do.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: dutch on October 01, 2011 - 05:14:20 am
 :scared:   Brad you need help buddy....  :biggrin:

really looking forward to see some progress on this impressive project Mike  :2thumbs:
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Post by: cmg on October 01, 2011 - 04:45:42 pm
  :wave: Can't make it tonight, but we'll have to arrange a meeting soon. Do you have an E-Body? You should post in the newbie section and introduce yourself.  :cheers: I'm always looking forward to meeting local fellow mopar fans!

 Patience my friend....  Lots of updates very soon!  :working:

Lol I will soon. We have a 70 challenger, currently not drivable because the gas tank is mia and the carb is annoying.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on October 03, 2011 - 11:16:01 am
:iagree:   Wow! I'm jealous!  :grinyes:

([url]http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu240/B_Richmond/PDRM0881.jpg[/url])
  :roflsmiley:  :smilielol: You sure have lots of "stuff" Brad!

Lol I will soon. We have a 70 challenger, currently not drivable because the gas tank is mia and the carb is annoying.
Very cool! I'm always willing to share any knowledge I can!  :cheers:
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Post by: Challenger III on October 22, 2011 - 07:39:59 pm
A little progress. Firewall and both door pillars / cowl sides are all welded in. This took awhile to get done for a couple of reasons. I had a really busy summer, and I was pretty nervous about getting this right.
I also test fitted the new floor... everything is looking pretty good as far as fit so far.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/250.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/252.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/251.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/249.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/247.jpg)

I'll post another update soon!  :working:
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Post by: dutch on October 23, 2011 - 04:35:40 am
 :wow:  looking good Mike!  Sometimes it a really good idea to step back and rethink the next step before pulling the trigger... I know I`ve saved myself a lot of trouble that way.....  on the other hand,  step back too long and the unfinshed project may and up on ebag some day...  :scared:
I love this rustbucket rebuild buddy, you are doing an awesome job  :worshippy   keep posting away... I can already smell the fresh paint   :jumping:    ..... well maybe not ,  but I smell dust anyways.....  :bananasmi
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Post by: brads70 on October 23, 2011 - 08:24:48 am
Wow looks great! Can you almost smel the exhaust fumes!  :burnout:  Sure will be very nice when your done! :clapping:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on October 23, 2011 - 09:47:01 pm
on the other hand,  step back too long and the unfinshed project may and up on ebag some day...  :scared:



No way Bart!  :grinno:

I got more accomplished today: Wet sanded the top of the firewall that is covered by the upper cowl with 240, cleaned with laquer thinner and painted with POR 15. I then sealed the duct opening flanges with NP 1:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/255.jpg)

I painted inside the frame rails with POR 15:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/254.jpg)

I then welded the upper cowl in:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/256.jpg)

I'll clean up the welds, then it's finally time for the floor!  :faint:
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Post by: mopar12372 on October 24, 2011 - 08:18:52 pm
yes!!!!! get your asp out in the garage and weld up that cuda
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Post by: Challenger III on October 24, 2011 - 09:18:09 pm
yes!!!!! get your asp out in the garage and weld up that cuda

 :smilielol:  :roflsmiley: I'm on it my friend!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Topcat on October 24, 2011 - 09:23:18 pm
Keep going!
You haven't even gotten to the fun part yet.

White dust all over you with body filler and primer stuck on your fingertips.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: mopar12372 on October 24, 2011 - 09:46:23 pm
ok so its a challenger !!!!
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Post by: Duff on October 26, 2011 - 02:19:28 am
I love following this thread.  Great work!  It's so cool to actually see people going through this process
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Post by: brads70 on October 26, 2011 - 07:17:58 am
I seem to have the problem of, when I install something new then the part next to looks like crap ( im my head anyway) then I replace that part, and so on and so on.... I gotta mentally stop myself before I go broke!
I was wondering if you have that problem too? Like with all the new sheetmetal lookin all shiny and new where do you stop?  :grinyes:
Not that there's much left to replace though?  :roflsmiley:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Challenger III on October 26, 2011 - 11:36:00 am
Keep going!
You haven't even gotten to the fun part yet.

White dust all over you with body filler and primer stuck on your fingertips.
Yeah Mike....... I can't wait.  :eek4:

I seem to have the problem of, when I install something new then the part next to looks like crap ( im my head anyway) then I replace that part, and so on and so on.... I gotta mentally stop myself before I go broke!
I was wondering if you have that problem too? Like with all the new sheetmetal lookin all shiny and new where do you stop?  :grinyes:
Not that there's much left to replace though?  :roflsmiley:

I have the same problem. I think I'm near the end of the patching and panel swapping, but I'll know more once everything is prepped and in primer.
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: Cooter on October 26, 2011 - 12:35:15 pm
Mike, every time I look at your thread, it amazes me a little more....Hats off to ya' buddy. I consider myself to be a pretty good metal man, but you blew me right out the water. Holy cats, your thread should be a mandatory read for new members that are thinking of a long term "project"....Just seeing your work is motivating, as I now know you got more done with a busy summer than i did with my "Busy" summer...


Keep the updates coming brother, and excellent work! :worshippy
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Post by: Challenger III on November 05, 2011 - 09:19:58 pm
Thanks again Cooter. Here's some update photos. I have some more, and will upload them soon....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/257.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/258.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/259.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/260.jpg)

 :working:  :cheers:
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Post by: femtnmax on November 05, 2011 - 09:39:24 pm
Looks like your doing a great job.  You have a natural talent for metalwork, and your attention to detail doesn't hurt either:)
Keep up the good work   :2thumbs:
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Post by: Topcat on November 05, 2011 - 10:57:43 pm
All that welding, leaning over! My back hurts just thinking about it!
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Post by: dutch on November 06, 2011 - 03:57:09 am
.... I'm not a body man.


 :roflsmiley:     yes you are    :worshippy
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Post by: Duff on November 07, 2011 - 10:57:12 am
Great thread!  I love seeing the progress and the quality work.   :iagree:
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Post by: Challenger III on November 07, 2011 - 11:11:50 pm
Much appreciated guys! Phil, I'm rapidly approaching the time I'm really going to need attention to detail.
Bart.... you'll be rolling on the floor laughing once you see my filler attempts!  :22yikes:
Here are some more photos, as promised. These panels don't just fall into place. There is some stretching, banging and bending (as many of you folks already know). I did, however, manage to make the stuff fit pretty tight! Then, lots of grinding.   :eek4:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/261.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/262.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/263.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/266.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/264.jpg)

All I have left is the left panel in the engine compartment, and convert to a 26" radiator opening, then I'll be done with panel hanging.

 :working:  :cheers:
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Post by: GranCuda1970 on November 07, 2011 - 11:22:05 pm
Looking really good!!!  nice work!!  :popcorn: I am getting motivated agin!
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Post by: brads70 on November 08, 2011 - 08:02:03 am
wow that's a ton of work! Good job! :2thumbs:
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Post by: mopardave on November 11, 2011 - 05:52:41 pm
good job their Mike, looking good.
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Post by: Cooter on November 11, 2011 - 06:01:05 pm
Dang, he out did himself again. Amazing work Mike. Those floors look AWESOME! Keep at bro. I just love seeing your pics. Now lemme go back and check 'em out again...
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Post by: Challenger III on November 16, 2011 - 11:54:28 pm
Thanks again Guys! Good to hear from you David! I'm going to need to give you a call pretty soon.

Here are some more progress photos. I'm getting to the end of the panel replacement. I only have to convert to 26" radiator opening, move the car home, then on to some fun mock up stuff on the car.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/267.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/269.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/270.jpg)
(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/271.jpg)

 :cheers:
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Post by: Cooter on November 17, 2011 - 12:12:25 am
This has got to be one of the best "How to" threads on here. :2thumbs:
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Post by: Niko on November 19, 2011 - 05:04:27 pm
Good work. I should also install new inner fenders next. Is there some reason to use those spot welds instead of weld whole side?
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Post by: Challenger III on November 19, 2011 - 06:00:08 pm
Is there some reason to use those spot welds instead of weld whole side?
Welcome to the forum! They look closer to factory if you plug weld them (minus the little pinch weld dimples). It would take forever to seam weld them in.
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Post by: Challenger III on November 19, 2011 - 08:04:19 pm
Ready to load on the trailer and take it home.

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/275.jpg)
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Post by: Jamiez on November 19, 2011 - 08:32:29 pm
Grats!

AMD or whoever you bought all that sheet metal from should send you Christmas cards :)
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Post by: Topcat on November 19, 2011 - 08:51:09 pm
That's gotta be a relief.

Has the ringing in your ears stopped from grinding?
My Tinitus would act up really bad after tons of grinding even while wearing headphones.
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Post by: Challenger III on November 19, 2011 - 09:23:04 pm
That's gotta be a relief.

Has the ringing in your ears stopped from grinding?
My Tinitus would act up really bad after tons of grinding even while wearing headphones.
Had a really bad time with my ears last winter, but I've been VERY careful with them for a year now. The ringing has been gone for a long time, and are actually better than before I started on this project. It is a relief to be done with the panel hanging for sure!  :faint:

Grats!

AMD or whoever you bought all that sheet metal from should send you Christmas cards :)
Just doing my part to keep the aftermarket sheet metal industry rolling!  :lol:
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Post by: brads70 on November 20, 2011 - 12:09:48 am
Congrats! Looks like a new car, body in white....minus the white! :biggrin: :2thumbs:
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Post by: mopar12372 on November 20, 2011 - 05:23:07 pm
well good for you sir!! :cheers:
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Post by: Padawan on November 30, 2011 - 12:01:08 am
This is just awesome!   :worshippy
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Post by: usraptr on December 03, 2011 - 07:35:27 pm
Congrats on getting it ready to bring home.  Make sure you post pics in it's new place!   :2thumbs:
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Post by: CudaDownUnder on December 10, 2011 - 07:10:51 pm
No way Bart!  :grinno:

I got more accomplished today: Wet sanded the top of the firewall that is covered by the upper cowl with 240, cleaned with laquer thinner and painted with POR 15. I then sealed the duct opening flanges with NP 1:

([url]http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/255.jpg[/url])

I then welded the upper cowl in:

([url]http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/256.jpg[/url])

I'll clean up the welds, then it's finally time for the floor!  :faint:


I'm at this stage with my car right now and I'm wondering what condition the POR15 is in after the welding was done - blistered?
Also, did you apply any seam sealer in the joins between the upper and lower cowls? I cannot see any in the photos.

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Post by: Challenger III on December 16, 2011 - 12:36:26 pm
Here it is in it's new place. I had to run a couple of electrical circuits for my welding machine and air compressor, or I would have had more done on the car. I pulled the trigger on my RMS suspension, removed the factory rear suspension, and am in the process of fitting the new wheels tires, and Dana rear.
In total, I will narrow the rear around 4". I special ordered the Lynx  setup fully weld in, without all the U-Bolt thingys. More progress shots, and more to come next week....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/285.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/281.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/286.jpg)

 :working:  :cheers:
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Post by: GranCuda1970 on December 16, 2011 - 12:42:19 pm
Looking really good , and I like the way she sits low!! Body line looks perfect!! Is that a blue dana?
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Post by: Challenger III on December 16, 2011 - 12:48:10 pm
Is that a blue dana?
Yes it is. Petty Blue?  :lol:
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Post by: GranCuda1970 on December 16, 2011 - 12:54:38 pm
You have done so much amazing work on this car and I cannot wait to see it finished she is super nice.
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Post by: dutch on December 16, 2011 - 12:55:17 pm
hey Mike,  I have to admit I was not impressed when I saw the wheels a little while ago,  but MAN!! do they look good or what...!  I bet you walked around smiling for at least a few seconds...  :bananasmi  I love the way the rear wheels are tucked in.  Looks racey to me   :drool:  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Cooter on December 16, 2011 - 01:28:23 pm
Mike, once again, your ride looks amazing. LOVE the weld racing wheels and the big and littles. HUGE fan of that. IMO, thank God it wasn't those big ass, "Pro touring" "Chip Foose" wheels. Again, looks killer. I can't believe my car wasn't anywhere near as bad as yours, yet it looks like your gonna run aorund me shortly in progress. I wouldn't have it any other way bro. Helluva job.
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Post by: Travis72 on December 18, 2011 - 02:07:29 pm
Looks really mean right now!!!  :ylsuper:

Travis
72 Cuda
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Post by: mopar12372 on December 20, 2011 - 12:38:33 am
me likey!!! :2thumbs:
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Post by: Raw Untamed on January 01, 2012 - 10:17:56 pm
Outstanding work!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: 340Challman on January 02, 2012 - 12:50:26 pm
Man, I just read this all the way through. At the beginning my reaction was  :scared: :scared: :eek2:. Not because of your work but how extensive the rust and how deep you had to go. I crawl around my car and it looks fairly solid but it is the unseen part that makes me nervous. Just the thought of encountering half of what you did intimidates the begeezes out of me. :faint:  I am not anywhere as capable as you. If I run into that, I'm toast.

With that said, You sir, are the master. :worshippy :worshippy  I will tear into my car and if I find uglies, I will have my bible, right here in this thread. Thank you for the awesome resto and documentation. I look forward to the continuation and completion of your thread. :2thumbs:

Kevin
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Post by: 1970 RT Challenger 1970 on January 02, 2012 - 03:02:13 pm
Excellent work!
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Post by: mopar12372 on January 04, 2012 - 03:08:13 pm
how did you get the rims and tires in the wheel well with out a diff?
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Post by: Aracer on January 13, 2012 - 02:36:42 pm
I think I have the same Billet wheels. What tires are the front's running?
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Post by: Challenger III on January 16, 2012 - 11:46:19 am
Thanks for the kind words again folks!  :wave:
You are correct Bart.... I've walked around around staring at it quite a bit. I find it hard to believe I have it looking the way it is.  :faint:
Cooter, my vision for the project is the nose down "Funny Car" type of look that I had with my last Challenger. I'm old (school).  :lol:
Bill, you probably already know my project is no stranger to jack stands. My tires can stand up with no help from a diff.  :lol:
I think I have the same Billet wheels. What tires are the front's running?
  205-60-R15. I'm kinda wishing I went with the 215's.  The front is going to be pretty low, an I don't want them hitting the fenders in turns.

Here is what I've been up to lately:

Made a casing spreader for my Dana....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/287.jpg)

Disassembled the rearend and cleaned everything up.....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/292.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/290.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/293.jpg)

DoctorMike (TM)  :lol: 1 1/2" relocation perches....

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/294.jpg)

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/70%20Challenger%20Restoration/295.jpg)

 :working:  :cheers:

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Post by: GranCuda1970 on January 16, 2012 - 12:13:21 pm
 :wow:That is pretty neat, and you make it look easy.  :ylsuper:
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Post by: Aracer on January 17, 2012 - 10:29:32 pm
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BFG-91918/
225/60/15 v rated (The biggest 15" they come in.)
I will get these front tires when I start street driving this car after a few years of drag racing. I have weld 3" x15"/ VW's for now. I want to get the 8"x15"/4.5" Bs. x 15" Billit for the front to go with the Billit 10"x15"/ 5" Bs. and  275/60's tires I have now. I have also been using 10x29" Hooser slicks on 8"x15"/ 4" bs. weld 8 hole, to match the front for racing. They need a 7/16" spacer to keep them off the leafs on turns with a spool that's in now.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BSP-RS085800445N/
When the front tire is to short, the car would over steer on tight ramps. If you get it too low the headers will snag on something, so I like stock. E body's are a factory low rider already.
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Post by: Challenger III on January 18, 2012 - 11:38:59 am
I plan on running TTI headers and a low profile oil pan to keep everything snugged up under the car. My last one had 195- 70's up front and hookers. It seemed to work O.K.:

(http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/Challenger.jpg)

 I'll know more as I move along.  :cheers:
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Post by: Aracer on January 19, 2012 - 12:54:58 am
I just took the 215/60 R14" on 6" slots off, that are about 25" tall and they were ok. But I did watch a 80's Mustang and 2000 Camaro both pull away on freeway ramps while I struggled with the twichy over steer. So I'm looking for better handling front tires. I mention this problem as helpful advice so people know what I tried and didn't like.
The 1968 cuda is using the 215's and they are almost touching the front of the lower edge of the wheel opening when turned in. Probably the 3.5" back space is the cause.
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Post by: TreeFrog on February 07, 2012 - 10:12:49 am
Awesome thread Awesome Work!
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Post by: GranCuda1970 on February 07, 2012 - 10:26:57 am
I plan on running TTI headers and a low profile oil pan to keep everything snugged up under the car. My last one had 195- 70's up front and hookers. It seemed to work O.K.:

([url]http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/ad80/mike-62_photos/Challenger.jpg[/url])

 I'll know more as I move along.  :cheers:


   That car looks alot like this one minus the SE badge.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-DODGE-CHALLENGER-SE-HP-383-727-ONLY-644-PRODUCTION-/150749234437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item23195ac505

   You definately had the mojo going on it that pic :2thumbs: :cooldancing: :ylsuper: :burnout:
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Post by: Padawan on February 11, 2012 - 11:51:40 am
That car looks alot like this one minus the SE badge.

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-DODGE-CHALLENGER-SE-HP-383-727-ONLY-644-PRODUCTION-/150749234437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item23195ac505[/url]

Oh wow, that car is still on ebay? I've seen that one while searching for Challengers starting August last year, looks like he's been relisting it ever since. Would be interesting to graph the high bid amount every time his auction ended, you could get kind of a mopar index. :bigsmile:
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Post by: Gumby on February 11, 2012 - 01:08:08 pm
   That car looks alot like this one minus the SE badge.

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-DODGE-CHALLENGER-SE-HP-383-727-ONLY-644-PRODUCTION-/150749234437?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item23195ac505[/url]

   You definately had the mojo going on it that pic :2thumbs: :cooldancing: :ylsuper: :burnout:
I am absolutely convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you could transform a pile of metal shavings into an entire car! WoW! Exceptional work! And you make it look like one of those tv shows where everything in neat and tidy in a 1/2 hour time slot. lol. Mind boggeling! Very nice work. :ylsuper:  (by the way, is that Frank Zappa driving the Challenger in the picture?)  :clueless:  :dunno:
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Post by: mopar12372 on February 11, 2012 - 01:55:30 pm
at least when your done with  resurrection of the rust pile youll have past experience of what it should be .  :wavingflag:
Title: Re: Sure... I'll Give It A Try.
Post by: James94 on February 14, 2012 - 10:32:12 pm
Good work. I will defiantly be following this till the end.
Are you going to have the stance of the car just like it is mocked up there? It looks killer like that.
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Post by: Raw Untamed on June 16, 2012 - 04:40:34 pm
Any updates?
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Post by: Challenger III on June 19, 2012 - 05:33:42 pm
Any updates?
  :misbehaving: Yes, I have some updates to post. I've been lazy and not downloading from my camera in awhile. I'll get right on it ASAP.

Are you going to have the stance of the car just like it is mocked up there? It looks killer like that.
That's the way she'll sit! (Say that three times real fast!). Thanks!
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Post by: dutch on June 20, 2012 - 06:02:58 am
hey Mike  :wave:   good to read you`re making progress on the car buddy.  Cant wait to see some proof though...  :poopoke: :woohoo:
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Post by: Topcat on June 20, 2012 - 10:42:54 pm
Orville Redenbacher's

 :popcorn:
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Post by: 'Cuda Hunter on September 08, 2012 - 08:10:51 pm
  :misbehaving: Yes, I have some updates to post. I've been lazy and not downloading from my camera in awhile. I'll get right on it ASAP.

 :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Post by: glovemeister on September 09, 2012 - 12:35:12 am
Seeing some of these projects that you and other's working their magic on makes me optimistic. Luckily for me I was able to start with pretty much no rust which works out with my skill level. You are doing an amazing job on your car.
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Post by: PlumCrazyChris on November 05, 2012 - 04:55:07 pm
Wow! :eek2:

I am so impressed with your project, I just stumbled upon this thread and got totally hooked.  You've really done some amazing stuff, that nearly all of us could only dream of.  Thats going to be a really wonderful car when you finish... unbelievable!

I think at some point you asked about what color to paint it.  I think petty blue is good, but B5 blue is a really awesome color that certainly never goes out of style.   :2cents:

I really can't wait to see more.  I'm really getting enthused again to start working on my project.... maybe even update my project thread... if I can find it.