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Title: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:47:06 am
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1970 Dodge Challenger - built by Bruning Auto Design (http://www.bruningautodesign.com)

E-Tikit Challenger Concept: Stance is key with any build. Ultra-low ride height, maximum performance, and subtle body mods are underlying themes throughout the build.

- A Solid Foundation: We began by fabricating an elaborate tubular chassis constructed around Corvette C5 suspension and drive train components. The 5" of ground clearance at the lowest point of the car at ride height is achieved without the use of air suspension.

- Modern Muscle: Yes, It’s got a HEMI… An 800 horsepower twin-turbo charged 426 C.I.D Stroker based on the new generation 6.1L SRT-8 HEMI. One-off dual throttle body intake manifold, 321 stainless steel turbo headers and exhaust, aluminum oil pan, and new generation twin-plug HEMI valve covers are all hand-crafted originals.

- Body Mods: Subtle changes made throughout: fender openings which are moved forward 2 inches and up 1 inch; chin and deck lid spoilers; lower valance treatments; functional R/T Hood, modernized door handles; and lighting improvements.

- Industrial/Mechanical Finishes:The Challenger will live up to its “R/T” Road & Track MOPAR heritage. Show quality finishes with an emphasis on reliability and durability throughout the build. The ultimate driver that looks as good on track day as it does on display at a show.
 
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    * Centerforce - Midway Industries (http://www.centerforce.com): Clutch Components
    * Autometer (http://www.autometer.com): Automotive Instruments/Gauges
    * ATI Performance Products (http://www.atiracing.com): Super Damper harmonic balancer assembly
    * Ididit Inc. (http://www.ididitinc.com): E-Body Tilt Column & steering linkage
    * R.C. Engineering, Inc. (http://www.rceng.com): High Performance Fuel Injectors
    * American Autowire (http://www.americanautowire.com): Modular Wiring Harness & Accessories
    * Automotive Design Engineering (http://www.automotivedesigneng.com): Unigraphics CAD Engineering
    * Mothers (http://www.mothers.com): Polishes, Cleaners, & Waxes
    * Hot Rod Air Inc. (http://www.hotrodair.com): Air Conditioning Components
    * Plum Floored Creations (http://www.plumfloored.com): 426 HEMI 6.1 Stroker - Your Source for New Hemi Swaps
    * Revolution Industries (http://www.rev-in.com): Graphic and Web Design; Print Media
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    * Pure Power! Incorporated (http://www.gopurepower.com): Billet Lifetime Oil Filtration Products
    * Meziere Enterprises (http://www.meziere.com): High Performance Electric Water Pump
    * Arc Audio (http://www.arcaudio.com): Sound System

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:48:26 am
The car was media blasted and motor & suspension is on hand and ready to go.....
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1374/may07tjstruggy018zg9.jpg)
The wheels and tires in this picture are not for this build.  They are actually going on the Chevelle in the background.
Crate motor-
SRT 8 6.1 HEMI
370 cu in
10.3:1 compression
425 hp @ 6200 RPM
420 ft. lb torque @ 4200 RPM
forged steel crankshaft
aluminum intake
6400 rpm redline
(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5676/may07tjstruggy017yx9.jpg)
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(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9562/may07tjstruggy016lb9.jpg)
Twin turbos will be added, but there is still a lot of research to do....
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:49:14 am
Next up was building a fixture/jig out of 60' of 2.5 x 2.5 .187 wall tubing.
All braced up and getting rid of the rot.
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7686/inprogjuly07004zl1.jpg)
inner fenders going to need some "modification"
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6572/inprogjuly07005xp7.jpg)
rear quarter cut out..  ride height mocked up using the donor 20" rim and tire
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/193/inprogjuly07006xx0.jpg)
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:50:14 am
more...
(http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9240/inprogjuly07010kr9.jpg)
(http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8581/inprogjuly07008br8.jpg)
new rear quarters...
(http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4865/inprogjuly07011sv6.jpg)
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/808/inprogjuly07012da1.jpg)
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Time to get the front & rear Corvette suspension components mocked into place....
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:50:55 am
New tires.  Fronts are 19's, rears are 20's.
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7606/inprogaug070012jm3.jpg)
Cutting out the rest of the rot & making room for 12" wide 20" rims, IRS Corvette Suspenion & rear mounted transmission.
(http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/209/inprogaug070022eq2.jpg)
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(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5092/inprogaug070102lf2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:51:27 am
Bellhousing... Not using the corvette Torque tube.
(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8111/inprogaug070042we5.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5717/inprogaug070052dp5.jpg)
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3773/inprogaug070072hm0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:52:00 am
More on the bellhousing/adapter combo... Not going to use the factory Corvette torque tube because of size limitations (Too bulky and would have to be shortened anyway). The adapter & carrier bearing will make it possible to use a slip yoke driveshaft instead. The bearing was purchased at a specialty race shop in Portland.
Hopefully the pics will make more sense.
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5367/sept07021gy0.jpg)
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Can't wait to see it with baer brakes.....
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1565/sept07045pu0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:52:33 am
Rear Corvette C5 suspension ready for mock up...
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5999/sept07011cz0.jpg)
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Arms are set to factory Corvette spec.  Chassis will be built from there...  The front will be the same process.
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/26/sept07031ir3.jpg)
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5999/sept07032fm3.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:53:05 am
Ride height is set with a nice level body line in the rear.....
(http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3228/sept07034na8.jpg)
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:53:34 am
Tire pics...
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9228/sept07042it5.jpg)

245/40 ZR 19's in front
(http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6739/sept07040nn2.jpg)

335/30 ZR 20's in the rear
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8161/sept07023yb2.jpg)
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3312/sept07020vw2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:54:17 am
Can't leave anything alone.....

Daily Driver...  22" Intro's on bags.
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6620/july282005128ck7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:54:48 am
Wheel Choices....  Coming soon.  Some potential contenders..
 
Forgeline, DPE, & Enkreuz
 
(http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/5391/iforged1nr9.jpg)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9692/iforged2xp3.jpg)
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1246/iforged3ze6.jpg)
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1359/iforged4ft5.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:55:26 am
Brakes arrived.... pics do not do justice.  Beautiful!

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6809/sept07badbrakes031zh4.jpg)
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(http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8986/sept07badbrakes032fi9.jpg)
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5532/sept07badbrakes029ca7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:56:33 am
lots of dirty work....

Rockers: Gutted, pinch welds gone, fully prepped and epoxy coated
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3104/badchallenger121307001fo9.jpg)
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:57:08 am
Rocker strength - pinch weld alternative...
 
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4656/badchallenger121307007ws4.jpg)
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2605/badchallenger121307008vo1.jpg)
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5439/badchallenger121307009hf7.jpg)

The bottom of the rockers will be the lowest point on the car....
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:57:49 am
Getting ready to mock up fenders, doors, & quarter panels to check body gaps, etc. and weld the quarter panels in.

Thank you Hypertherm.

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6340/badchallenger121307006km8.jpg)
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4998/badchallenger121307025xr1.jpg)

Door Hinges:  Bead Blasted & rebuilt.
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8829/badchallenger121307029sk1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:58:25 am
More...

More Prep work & epoxy
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8651/badchallenger121307002ds2.jpg)

Wheel Tub prep and layout - easier to do without suspension in the way.
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4117/badchallenger121307026cd1.jpg)
(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/505/badchallenger121307031cu6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 03:00:04 am
Front wheel wells- opening will be moved up 1" and forward 2".

Mockup using a stock (beat up) fender
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6760/badchallenger121307033ac1.jpg)
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2773/badchallenger121307032we6.jpg)

More fitment
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4613/badchallenger121307036uj0.jpg)

We will debut the chassis at the Portland Rod & Custom Show & Seattle Roadster Show in February.

I will be posting more updates soon!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 72hemi on December 14, 2007 - 11:37:18 am
Wow that is a lot of work. Looking good. Keep us updated on the progress.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 1BADFISH™ on December 14, 2007 - 11:43:18 am
 :droolingbounce:   Thanks for the pics! Keep them coming...   :jumping:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Moparpena on December 14, 2007 - 11:56:07 am
Looks  :droolingbounce:

We want more!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71bigblock on December 14, 2007 - 12:10:30 pm
Is it going to eat little children too?   :22yikes: :scared: :scared:



Holy challenger batman, that thing is going to be insane!  Nice work!   :worshippy :worshippy :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 12:39:05 pm
Some of the pictures I posted last night didn't work...

let's try this again.
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2974/badchallenger121307003yd4.jpg)
(http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5854/001tt3.jpg)
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 12:53:17 pm
Wow that is a lot of work. Looking good. Keep us updated on the progress.
:droolingbounce:   Thanks for the pics! Keep them coming...   :jumping:
Looks  :droolingbounce:

We want more!
Is it going to eat little children too?   :22yikes: :scared: :scared:



Holy challenger batman, that thing is going to be insane!  Nice work!   :worshippy :worshippy :drool:

Thank you for the positive feedback!  I look forward to posting more updatres soon.

:)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Jacksboys on December 14, 2007 - 01:22:50 pm
WOW you are doing a bunch of work.  Looking good so far.   :2thumbs:

I am a little confused on one thing, why do you have to cut and move the front fenders?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Swedefish on December 14, 2007 - 01:35:57 pm
That looks awesome.
Some real serious fabricating you`re doing there.  :2thumbs:
Can`t wait too see this one finished.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:07:05 pm
Posted better pics in the first post in this thread of the 33' Ford..
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on December 14, 2007 - 02:33:11 pm
Wow, that's a TON of work!!! :faint:  I'm not really a fan of the lowered look on these cars, but that thing is going to be wicked when it's finished!!! :grinyes:  I love the idea for twin-turbos as I plan on putting some together for my 340 (probably going stroker with it). :2thumbs:  Too bad we don't have an option to subscribe to threads here 'cause I'd love to see every update when they're available.

Oh, and you should check out (Conv340) another member's 'Cuda project.  He's done some extensive work on getting his channeled and on airbags.  These two cars side-by-side when completed would look very sinister!!!

Here's the link to his progress:
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=28388.0 :thumbsup:

NO, his photos are no longer on the database for the forum! :faint: :'(
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 02:45:45 pm
Wow, that's a TON of work!!! :faint:  I'm not really a fan of the lowered look on these cars, but that thing is going to be wicked when it's finished!!! :grinyes:  I love the idea for twin-turbos as I plan on putting some together for my 340 (probably going stroker with it). :2thumbs:  Too bad we don't have an option to subscribe to threads here 'cause I'd love to see every update when they're available.

Oh, and you should check out (Conv340) another member's 'Cuda project.  He's done some extensive work on getting his channeled and on airbags.  These two cars side-by-side when completed would look very sinister!!!

Here's the link to his progress:
[url]http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=28388.0[/url] :thumbsup:

NO, his photos are no longer on the database for the forum! :faint: :'(


Thanks for the link...  too bad the photo's don't work.

The stock unibody frame supports, etc. are long gone so no body drop/body channel per say.  Our plan will make more sense once I post pictures of the chassis as it takes shape.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: RabidScott on December 14, 2007 - 02:47:17 pm
Wow, that is neat.  Never seen the Corvette stuff under a Mopar, just doesn't seem right for some reason!!   ;)

Can I see pictures of what your are doing for the frame?

Is it going to be a perimeter frame like the Corvettes?  Is it going to be integrated in the old Challenger unibody?

Is it going to run transverse leafs or are you going with coil overs?

I thought the torque tube/rear mounted transmission would have improved weight distribution for handling purposes, did it just not fit?

Very different, for sure!!   8)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 14, 2007 - 03:03:28 pm
Wow, that is neat.  Never seen the Corvette stuff under a Mopar, just doesn't seem right for some reason!!   ;)

Can I see pictures of what your are doing for the frame?

Is it going to be a perimeter frame like the Corvettes?  Is it going to be integrated in the old Challenger unibody?

Is it going to run transverse leafs or are you going with coil overs?

I thought the torque tube/rear mounted transmission would have improved weight distribution for handling purposes, did it just not fit?

Very different, for sure!!   8)


Here is the new frame to date...... 1.5" .120 wall DOM
(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7790/may07tjstruggy00932pp9.jpg)

What's left of the Challenger's shell will be integrated into the new chassis/roll cage. 

The 6 speed tranny & rear differential will still be mounted in the rear, but not attached by the factory corvette torque tube.  The pictures of the bearing/bellhousing/adapter show the beginnings of what will replace the torque tube.

Regarding the corvette suspension.... We looked into using viper instead but the cost & design limitations stopped that.  Corvette C5 suspension is pretty popular.  Johnson's G-Force Cuda has vette suspension and there are a handful of other builders building mustangs, etc. as well.

The only suspension pieces that we are going to use in addition to the tremec 6 speed and Independant differential are the front & rear spindles and control arms.  The arms are set up in the jigs to factory specs.  The chassis will then be built from there.  The vette brakes are gone as well in favor of 15" rotors and 6 piston BAER calipers front & rear.

thanks for watching ;)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on December 14, 2007 - 07:47:09 pm
man that looks amazing! did i miss the turbo setup, whats the specs on that?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Dragula on December 14, 2007 - 08:05:24 pm
Don't shoot me, but the build looks awesome, I would change one thing on the chassis.

The rear wheels look just a touch more forward than centered. Maybe just my reference, but cars look best I think when the wheels are centered in the well front to rear.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: HP2 on December 14, 2007 - 11:42:57 pm
Depends on whether you center them to the top of the opening, as these are, or to the bottom of the opening. In stock form they are centered more like this set up.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71340RT on December 15, 2007 - 12:52:48 am
Lots of work but sure looks good. What a great car it will be when done. I can't wait to see more pictures.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 15, 2007 - 12:32:09 pm
man that looks amazing! did i miss the turbo setup, whats the specs on that?

Thanks! RE: Turbos - TBD... 

Don't shoot me, but the build looks awesome, I would change one thing on the chassis.

The rear wheels look just a touch more forward than centered. Maybe just my reference, but cars look best I think when the wheels are centered in the well front to rear.

I agree.  that picture is showing tire fitment, but not the final location.  The tire is mocked in place to get perspective of stance, etc.  In this picture, Tim determined the center point of the opening to make a template for the new wheel tubs. 
(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/505/badchallenger121307031cu6.jpg)
Thank you for your input :)

Depends on whether you center them to the top of the opening, as these are, or to the bottom of the opening. In stock form they are centered more like this set up.


Good point.  The wheel base isn't finalized as of yet.  The frame fixture is adjustable, so moving the suspension forward a 1/2", etc isn't a huge ordeal.  The front will take a lot more time to dial in with the fender openings moved forward, etc. as well.

Lots of work but sure looks good. What a great car it will be when done. I can't wait to see more pictures.


I'll be posting more updates soon... Thanks for watching!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 67vertman on December 16, 2007 - 01:01:52 am
Wow great work...is your dad open to adopting someone right now?  :biggrin:

I like how he sectioned and moved the front wheel well opening forward. It really stands out.  :droolingbounce:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: A110235 on December 16, 2007 - 01:31:13 am
Hole-E-Crap!  That is some awesome work!   :ylsuper:
Please keep us posted.

Kyle
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: ragtopdodge on December 18, 2007 - 12:37:10 pm
Insane!

Probably the closest to the Johnson G-Force 'Cuda of any e-body yet!  At least in suspension.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: hemiken on December 19, 2007 - 05:16:44 am
Very Very neat work you guys are performing. :clapping: I also find it a lot better when you can step back to see what is going to look correct when doing mock up.  Some free advise their for the novice car builders  :thumbsup:
Please do not send me any cheques or money orders. :misbehaving:

But again, very methodical with great execution with your work. :worshippy  You guys have a break and a :drunk: you deserve it.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bearcuda on December 19, 2007 - 06:26:41 pm
That is a serious ton of work. I wish I could be your protege to learn how to do bodywork that extensive. I would love to have a shop to be able to do all this. Simply amazing.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: nivvy on December 19, 2007 - 08:16:29 pm
Cool... looks like you are building a museum quality ride there!  :working:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 20, 2007 - 03:27:10 pm
Thanks for the positive feedback...

Updates:

Front suspension-
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1038/122007003av2.jpg)
(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8351/122007004md2.jpg)
(http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9976/122007006mn8.jpg)
(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2757/122007007zh4.jpg)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9849/122007009pd5.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 20, 2007 - 04:36:10 pm
Motor- 5" to the bottom of the bellhousing and future Dry Sump pan at ride height.

(http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3698/122007011be5.jpg)
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2441/122007020oy2.jpg)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6563/122007012sa9.jpg)
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/571/122007013ov5.jpg)
(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9497/122007018af0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: IMNCARN82 on December 20, 2007 - 05:13:15 pm
VERY nice.    :worshippy  High level stuff.     I need some Baer products soon here.Which kit is so backed up? The fronts or the backs?   Robert.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 20, 2007 - 05:16:16 pm
Rear transaxle-

(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5929/122007015sy4.jpg)
(http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1025/122007023nb8.jpg)
(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6177/122007021nx0.jpg)
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1117/122007014sr2.jpg)
(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/9622/122007022lw0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 20, 2007 - 05:20:42 pm
VERY nice.    :worshippy  High level stuff.     I need some Baer products soon here.Which kit is so backed up? The fronts or the backs?   Robert.

Thanks,  we didn't have issues getting the front or rear 6S calipers & 15" rotors (big brake kit for a corvette) so I don't know which kit you are referring to.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Morris'_Mopars on December 20, 2007 - 10:05:41 pm
 :wow: :droolingbounce:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: PasiR on December 21, 2007 - 02:08:02 am
Absolutely awesome project and fabrication.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :burnout: :burnout:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: IMNCARN82 on December 21, 2007 - 10:35:02 am
  :wow:  Keep those nice pics coming! :picture:  Reminds me of my days as a fab. man. .000* THANKS FOR SHARING!!!    :clapping:   
Absolutely awesome project and fabrication.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :burnout: :burnout:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 25, 2007 - 05:56:38 pm
Christmas update:

Inner structure for the rocker panels

pre-install-
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6853/122507013pr1.jpg)
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9827/122507014hj0.jpg)
(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6987/122507015qi0.jpg)

Installed-
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9620/122507064ip4.jpg)
view from the front
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8607/122507065ra1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 25, 2007 - 06:09:17 pm
Quarters on for good-

ready for lead
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/733/122507062gp1.jpg)
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6395/122507066yu5.jpg)

no more pinch weld....
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3867/122507073de6.jpg)
(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8858/122507067gc7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 25, 2007 - 06:19:58 pm
Fender update- moved forward 2" & up 1" (still in the works obviously...)
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9006/122507068yo1.jpg)
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6483/122507074ye9.jpg)

More random shots-
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8849/122507061xz9.jpg)
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6720/122507070tu4.jpg)
(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8150/122507071hq7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: hemiken on December 25, 2007 - 11:06:51 pm
 :wow: Those are some heavy duty sills.  What is the expected ground clearance going to be. 
 :woohoo:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 25, 2007 - 11:51:13 pm
ground clearance - 4.5" at the front of the rocker; 5" at the bottom of the bellhousing
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: dutch on December 26, 2007 - 04:22:29 am
that`s one stunning machine you are building there :2thumbs:  I bet the thinking process takes at least twice the time of building it :stirpot:
can`t wait to see it finished. good luck with it, and thank you for sharing it with us! 8)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: hemiken on December 26, 2007 - 06:19:01 am
ground clearance - 4.5" at the front of the rocker; 5" at the bottom of the bellhousing
That is good ground clearance, i was expecting you to say something around 3.75" which would of been a bit on the wild side.....but 4.5" will be a great height, and very drivable.
that`s one stunning machine you are building there :2thumbs:  I bet the thinking process takes at least twice the time of building it :stirpot:
can`t wait to see it finished. good luck with it, and thank you for sharing it with us! 8)
I agree with Dutch and his comment about the thought process needed for this caliber of a project.  Any news about the 33 aswell.
Keep posting, looking great. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on December 26, 2007 - 10:26:20 pm
That's looking awesome! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Jacksboys on December 27, 2007 - 01:39:16 am
Looking Good  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: mr.mopar on December 28, 2007 - 02:04:25 pm
a wery nice job on this car.liked the engine/trans/rear end combo
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 04, 2008 - 08:03:48 pm
New Years update - chassis fabrication

Front lower frame section
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3733/img1253or0.jpg)
(http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/183/img1263nx0.jpg)
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9514/img1262cd0.jpg)

Looking towards the rear
(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2277/img1254gy0.jpg)
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5417/img1260df1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 04, 2008 - 08:08:04 pm
At the trans-

(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/77/img1258mt2.jpg)
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7771/img1261gp1.jpg)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6233/img1259ya1.jpg)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6233/img1259ya1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 04, 2008 - 08:10:25 pm
Couple pictures of the rear hoop

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2041/img1257na2.jpg)
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3820/img1255zo4.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: CHUCKS71 on January 04, 2008 - 08:41:35 pm
 :drool:Looking sweet! :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Jacksboys on January 05, 2008 - 01:08:06 am
What do you think the car will weigh when finished?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71340RT on January 05, 2008 - 01:58:32 am
Glad to see your still making great progress. Looks good and keep the pictures coming.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: hezzel on January 05, 2008 - 07:13:58 am
 :iagree:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on January 05, 2008 - 09:02:28 am
Wow, that's some great fabrication skills!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 74 340 4speed on January 08, 2008 - 05:53:21 pm
Simply Amazing.  Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 08, 2008 - 07:46:36 pm
thank you for the positive feedback.  Much appreciated.......

What do you think the car will weigh when finished?


over 300 lbs is my best guess at this point....  :)


Lenco Top gear shaft came in today.  Mopar Performance starter & flywheel should be later this week (hopefully)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3694/001vd1.jpg)
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7733/002eq1.jpg)
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7104/003bh7.jpg)
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8022/008jg5.jpg)

the shaft depth will be determined once all the pieces to the puzzle arrive.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 08, 2008 - 07:56:40 pm
cage progress- yes, the headliner will clear :)

(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3518/004eu5.jpg)
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4316/005qm3.jpg)
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9862/006es2.jpg)
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3225/007oi8.jpg)
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6708/009dc9.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Travis72 on January 09, 2008 - 02:56:35 am
 :worshippy

Great looking cage!

Travis
72 Cuda
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 02:40:21 pm
:worshippy

Great looking cage!

Travis
72 Cuda


thanks!  It's coming along....

Little overdue, but better late than never.....

Jason came down to the shop recently to finalize some of the details for the rendering he is doing of the Challenger... 

Perfect weather for a 2.5 hour drive.......
(http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2027/chassisprogressupdates0ia1.jpg)

www.jasonrushforth.com (http://www.jasonrushforth.com)   Can't wait to post the final draft :)  the fender, Baer Brakes, and tires were mocked up again.  Here are a couple pics....

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4655/chassisprogressupdates0ez3.jpg)

The driver's door had some creases, dings, etc. that needed some attention.  Still more work to do... (on the fender as well obviously)

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9154/chassisprogressupdates0vr9.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 426HEMI on January 19, 2008 - 02:46:06 pm
Looks like you have done alot of work already.  Sometimes the best things come to those that wait.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 02:57:50 pm
More...

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3661/chassisprogressupdates0es8.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5633/chassisprogressupdates0gs8.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6922/chassisprogressupdates0dh4.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5633/chassisprogressupdates0gs8.jpg)

The roof also needed help...   Someone or something sat across the roof- leaving eyebrow shaped creases.  A previous owner painted the car, but the dents were filled with bondo...  The roof looks 100 times better after some hammer and dolly work.

(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9520/chassisprogressupdates0fu8.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 03:06:57 pm
Looking at the 15" two-piece BAER rotors from the back side....

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4928/chassisprogressupdates0dg0.jpg)

I can't say enough good things about the brakes.  The quality and precision is top notch.  The 6 piston 6S calipers are machined from a single piece of aluminum and the anodized coating is the icing on the cake!  Baer's customer service is unbelievable as well.  They have gone above and beyond our expectations and I would recommend them to anyone in the market for high performance brakes!

http://www.baer.com/ (http://www.baer.com/)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 03:19:20 pm
Coming together in the rear....

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5845/chassisprogressupdates0xn3.jpg)

The lower section will be removable using Summit Machine notch style tube clamps.

(http://www.summitmachine.com/images/products/photos-TubeClamps.jpg)

www.summitmachine.com (http://www.summitmachine.com)

I will post pictures once they are in.... 

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3365/chassisprogressupdates0mo6.jpg)
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9663/chassisprogressupdates0up4.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 03:39:48 pm
I can't wait to see it on the ground.  The top of the roof will be ~49" off the ground at ride height...   Can't really get that visual while the car is still on the frame fixture....

More of the rear-

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7605/chassisprogressupdates0bz4.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4250/chassisprogressupdates0yf0.jpg)

(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3760/chassisprogressupdates0do9.jpg)

Lower control arm mounting brackets-  The upper mounts will be adjustable instead of the lowers.

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9697/chassisprogressupdates0wa2.jpg)

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8343/chassisprogressupdates0eq0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Swedefish on January 19, 2008 - 04:44:58 pm
Awesome, really interesting to follow the progress in this thread.
Do you got any numbers of how many feets of tubes you used this far?
Can`t wait to see it on the ground.
Keep up the great work, :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 04:47:18 pm
Underneath the rear diff/trans...  Exhaust will run below the crossmember.

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2503/chassisprogressupdates0mk3.jpg)

another angle-

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8474/chassisprogressupdates0rp2.jpg)

temporary bracket until coilovers are ordered.

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7012/chassisprogressupdates0ry1.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 04:58:08 pm
Awesome, really interesting to follow the progress in this thread.
Do you got any numbers of how many feets of tubes you used this far?
Can`t wait to see it on the ground.
Keep up the great work, :2thumbs:

100' or so...  rough guess, but that is including smaller pieces that will become interior support tubes etc. 

Thanks for watching :)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 05:05:33 pm
mid-mount motor plate

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1064/chassisprogressupdates0hf0.jpg)

tacked in- Mopar Performance Starter & flywheel

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9084/chassisprogressupdates0ow8.jpg)

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7338/chassisprogressupdates0jy6.jpg)

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5655/chassisprogressupdates0mu8.jpg)

The Quicktime bellhousing doesn't locate the starter in the exact location.  The mid plate is more precise and a nose cone support is in the plans as well....

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6849/chassisprogressupdates0ht6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71_340Challenger on January 19, 2008 - 05:09:21 pm
 :droolingbounce: and  :2thumbs: are about all I can say. Absolutely fabulous work. Not much of the original car is going to be left it looks like. Can't wait to see it on the ground. Keep up the great work.   :droolingbounce:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: hemiken on January 19, 2008 - 05:10:39 pm
This is looking very cool, those baer brakes look amazing.
Did you say you are running coil over shocks or air suspension.
You must be bursting wanting to put it down on the ground to see the true height visually. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: IMNCARN82 on January 19, 2008 - 05:26:24 pm
I'm about to buy brakes,and was interested in Baer. Where did you order yours from? Thanx.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 05:33:00 pm
View from the front showing the new firewall location....

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2100/chassisprogressupdates0lg0.jpg)

A pillar hoop is in as well-

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3669/chassisprogressupdates0ir5.jpg)

The remaining portion of the stock firewall/cowl area is temporarily tacked into place...  A new piece will be made that will seal off the interior.

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9143/chassisprogressupdates0dn9.jpg)

Side shot of the tunnel/backbone of the chassis

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/928/chassisprogressupdates0yq6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 05:39:11 pm
This is looking very cool, those baer brakes look amazing.
Did you say you are running coil over shocks or air suspension.
You must be bursting wanting to put it down on the ground to see the true height visually. :2thumbs:

Coilover's...  They will have to wait until after the two shows we are taking the car to in mid-February...

:droolingbounce: and  :2thumbs: are about all I can say. Absolutely fabulous work. Not much of the original car is going to be left it looks like. Can't wait to see it on the ground. Keep up the great work.   :droolingbounce:

thanks!  me too!

I'm about to buy brakes,and was interested in Baer. Where did you order yours from? Thanx.

We are a dealer for Baer Brakes...  Shoot me a PM...  I haven't promoted any of the products we sell here because I want to support the site before doing so.  We are in the final stretch to get the chassis off the frame fixture to take it to a couple car shows in mid-February.  We should have a little more room to breath after that.  I plan to support the sites our build up is posted on.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on January 19, 2008 - 05:44:19 pm
That looks awesome!!! :cheers:  Definitely a ton of work, but it's going to be killer when it's all done!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 05:58:13 pm
More...

The splice on each side is sleeved with 1.25" DOM

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6616/chassisprogressupdates0oe7.jpg)

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1228/chassisprogressupdates0ys2.jpg)

Room for the headers to turn up and come forward....

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8711/chassisprogressupdates0ru4.jpg)

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9969/chassisprogressupdates0jd2.jpg)

random shot...  lots of copes

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5836/chassisprogressupdates0le7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2008 - 06:08:30 pm
That looks awesome!!! :cheers:  Definitely a ton of work, but it's going to be killer when it's all done!!! :drool: :drool: :drool:


Thanks!

Front motor mount plate in the works as well....  The stock 6.1 timing chain cover has a lot of extra brackets that we won't need.

Before:

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4796/chassisprogressupdates0ej5.jpg)

After:

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/939/chassisprogressupdates0rn8.jpg)

More later.....
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on January 19, 2008 - 06:39:02 pm
Looks completely awesome.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Travis72 on January 21, 2008 - 01:27:08 am
Wow... that is some amazing craftsmanship!!

Travis
72 Cuda
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 22, 2008 - 11:45:49 am
Thank you for the positive feedback.... 

More updates- lower control arm mounting brackets

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/825/001pu0.jpg)

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/797/002vu2.jpg)

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3198/014rf4.jpg)

A-pillar & firewall coming together

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3165/003xo5.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71_340Challenger on January 22, 2008 - 11:52:03 am
Wow... that is some amazing craftsmanship!!

Travis
72 Cuda
:iagree: 
I wish I had those kinds of skills for my Challenger Keep up the great work and posting pics.
:droolingbounce:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 22, 2008 - 12:13:17 pm
Fender progress...

New lower mounting point (since the pinch weld is gone)

Looking at the bottom of the fender

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7453/013mw6.jpg)

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/848/009tk2.jpg)

new mounting plate machined to fit and counter-bored for socket head cap (allen) fasteners.

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3816/007xw3.jpg)

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4763/008ig0.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 22, 2008 - 12:32:13 pm
Looking up at the fender from underneath the car

(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5012/010ne8.jpg)

Side shot of the fender after the opening and filler piece were butt-welded and planished out. 


(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5171/012lw3.jpg)

More updates on what this block of 6061 Aluminum will become soon....

(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8581/006ni4.jpg)
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Post by: ViperMan on January 22, 2008 - 12:43:53 pm
A)  How well will that engine run with the crushed Mopar oil filter?  :)  I'm assuming you're going with an external oil cooler anyways.

B)  Are those control arm brackets strong enough?  Or is this a preliminary measurement for now?  They only look to be maybe, what, 10-gauge steel?

C)  What kind of notch cutter do you guys use for the tubing?  I've never seen anything that left that shape of scrap metal - I've only ever seen the tube notchers that'll just leave "metal dust."

D)  That's a HELL of a tunnel running through that - what are the plans for interior?  (I'm sure we'll see 'em soon enough.)

E)  This thing going to be ready by Mid February?

F)  How much is this project COSTING this guy?!

Jeff
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 22, 2008 - 01:20:56 pm
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A)  How well will that engine run with the crushed Mopar oil filter?  Smiley  I'm assuming you're going with an external oil cooler anyways.


Oil filter is only temporary as is the stock oil pan....

TTI block off plate
(http://www.ttiexhaust.com/Blocking%20Plate/image/Remote%20oil%20filter.jpg)

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B)  Are those control arm brackets strong enough?  Or is this a preliminary measurement for now?  They only look to be maybe, what, 10-gauge steel?


they are 1/4" and far from finished.....

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C)  What kind of notch cutter do you guys use for the tubing?  I've never seen anything that left that shape of scrap metal - I've only ever seen the tube notchers that'll just leave "metal dust."


All copes are done in a Bridgeport mill - quick, accurate, and doesn't stink up the shop

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D)  That's a HELL of a tunnel running through that - what are the plans for interior?  (I'm sure we'll see 'em soon enough.)


Tunnel height looks high in the photos, but wasn't bad at all when we mocked up the shifter and seat height.  Interior will follow the industrial mechanical theme of the car- very purpose oriented...

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E)  This thing going to be ready by Mid February?


The chassis and suspension will be finished and the car will be in our booth at the Portland & Seattle shows (in bare metal)

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F)  How much is this project COSTING this guy?!


The guy building the car is the guy who owns the car - my dad.  So, as far as costs go...  lots of long hours and a diminishing parts budget....   :bigsmile:
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Post by: Brant on January 22, 2008 - 07:03:43 pm
you rule! seriously. WOW.
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Post by: thedodgeboys on January 22, 2008 - 07:47:16 pm
dude your dad rules with the skills... :cooldancing:
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 24, 2008 - 12:24:07 am
Enkreuz H5's should be here next week.

progress pic-

(http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1811/enkruezh5rawyq6.jpg)
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Post by: Street_Challenged73 on January 24, 2008 - 03:43:21 am
That thing just continues to look cooler with every update!!  The quality is top notch and just unreal!  It's going to look very interesting when it's in paint. :thumbsup:
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Post by: hemiken on January 24, 2008 - 03:44:47 am
 :woo: They look a lot like the wheels on the new Challenger spy shots of the silver car. :scared:
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Post by: IMNCARN82 on January 24, 2008 - 08:34:05 am
O.K.  I'll ask... What is the "purpose" of this vehicle?   Other than to  :eek2:    It's incredible. :worshippy
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 24, 2008 - 11:49:48 am
O.K.  I'll ask... What is the "purpose" of this vehicle?   Other than to  :eek2:    It's incredible. :worshippy

Trailer Queen.....


































































haha, only kidding.....  It's difficult to label the car as a "resto-mod" or "Pro-touring" or "g-machine" style since there are so many variations. 

The shop my dad worked for before we started our own shop builds a lot of show & shine trailer queens... The cars are beautiful, $$$$$$, etc. but they weren't built to be driven.  His Challenger will be driven.  Form & function are very important. 

Big brakes, light-weight 3-piece wheels, big horsepower, performance based suspension and chassis design, etc....

You won't see a massive stereo system w/15" subs, $50k interior, chromed undercarriage, hidden instrument cluster, and so on....

Not sure if I answered your question... but if you were to stop by the shop and talk to my dad about the car, it would make sense.  He is very modest about his work and loves building cars.  The first car my dad drove in highschool was a black 70 challenger. The "purpose" of this vehicle is to have a cool challenger again.

thanks again for your interest in the build-

tj
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Post by: go-fish on January 24, 2008 - 03:57:10 pm
Hey TJ,
Where are you guys at in Oregon? Just curious, My wife has a few friends out there, she went to Chico State and went up into Oregon alot from NorCal.
I love seeing cars with this quality of build getting some rubber on the fenders. I have also seen you on pt.com and think it's great there are more Mopars on that site.
The other day on there a thread was started about where pro-touring is going. There were a few people that were disappointed that p-t is going the way of Pro Street, where the emphasis went from insanely fast drag cars being street legal to monochrome and billet street rods that had no emphasis on going fast and just looking good with huge rear tires.
I am glad to see you guys are not contributing to the dilution of what pro-touring is. Pro-touring evolved from corner carving enthusiasts proving that track cars CAN have a show car finish and a comfortable ride. Now it just seems, for the majority of people claiming P-T, want to start out with a beautiful 69 Camaro and a set of 20's and do the necessary mods to fit them.
I believe the topic was "Where is Pro-Touring Going". If it is going where you guys are aiming I think we "all-around" performance minded guys are going to have a valid genre to call our own.
There are a few of us here that have gone or are going the route of pro-touring but are reluctant to say so because of the stigma that it is just the new Pro-Street. I would have loved it if Pro Street stayed true to it's roots and the basis remained as a drag car first.
If you break down what pro-touring means, and many have tried, I believe it is "Pro" meaning a prurpose built track car as in great brak package on a chassis designed or modified to take the rigors of auto-X or road racing, performance wheels and tires, and an engine and transmission suited for a respectable outin on the track. "Touring" would derive from driving, cruising, enjoying the road, being comfortable in the thingypit guiding the sled through canyon roads and fre-way jaunts. Melding these two things you would have a carthat is truelly dual purpose and a blast anywhere you go, track or street.
If one were to build a trailer queen show car in the PT style it would not be Pro-touring. It would simply be a showcar highlighting the fundamentals of a true Pro-touring car. Just as in te later years of the Pro-Street craze where the cars were more show than go I think eventually these awesome examples of Pro-touring "themed" show cars are going to force Pro-touring to give way to some other genre.
The best thing of all though, cars such as your dads will never go out of style because cars that are tuelly used to do what is at the roots of the style or niche the were inspired by never go out of style. Think about the F-Bomb Camaro Frieburger was working on. It is so anti-Pro-Street it isn't even funny. But if you break it down it is in a sense Pro-Street in almost every sense of what it was meant to be when Pro-Street started out, it is super fast, it catches the eye, it is "show" where it needs to be and it is "go" where it needs to be.
Rock On BAD! You guys are oing it right and it's for the right reason, to do with a car what they were designed to do ever since people got tired of riding horses, to be driven.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 24, 2008 - 06:57:57 pm
We are just north of the Oregon border 10 miles or so in Brush Prairie.  I read through the thread and definitely agree with your take on what "Pro-Touring" is...   That said, I've tried not to "label" the car too much, even though it is what it is.  There will always be budget limitations to every build.  The key is spending your budget in the right areas....  There are million dollar cars built all the time...  You can build a car that costs 1/10th of that to perform, look good, turn heads, etc without all the expensive "jewelry."  That is the foundation of our business... 

Next time your up this way, come by the shop :)
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Post by: hemiken on January 24, 2008 - 07:00:42 pm
I've got a sneaky suspision that this could be the 2009 Challenger and Dodge have employed you to build the real first car.......................... :2thumbs:  Now i will deffinetly have one. :clapping:
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Post by: CHUCKS71 on January 24, 2008 - 09:15:34 pm
 :iagree: :2thumbs:
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 25, 2008 - 03:56:26 pm
thanks guys...

differential mount update-

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4159/001wu9.jpg)

(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1329/002jp7.jpg)

(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/764/004dk5.jpg)

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3530/005uw1.jpg)

(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/310/007xi2.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 25, 2008 - 04:01:02 pm
(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/655/010sl6.jpg)

(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1088/011ro4.jpg)

Chassis floor progress-

(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6698/009za5.jpg)
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Post by: hemiken on January 25, 2008 - 06:13:07 pm
 :wow: That block of billet came in handy.

Do you guys free hand stuff like this or go by plans with a plotter. :popcorn:
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Post by: go-fish on January 25, 2008 - 07:06:27 pm
Very nice work. Who neds a CNC machine anyway?
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Post by: IMNCARN82 on January 25, 2008 - 08:36:40 pm
I just couldn't come up with the words.  NICE CRAFTSMANSHIP !!! :worshippy
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 25, 2008 - 09:07:55 pm
:wow: That block of billet came in handy.

Do you guys free hand stuff like this or go by plans with a plotter. :popcorn:

That particular bracket was laid out by hand.  We also have brackets etc. cut out via water jet as well. 
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Post by: elitecustombody on January 25, 2008 - 09:45:30 pm
very nice work
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 25, 2008 - 09:47:09 pm
front motor plate-

(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9919/012uq2.jpg)

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1268/013xz8.jpg)

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4487/017ye3.jpg)

Frame side mounts- double shear

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2217/015sw5.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 25, 2008 - 09:50:40 pm
more-

(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7930/016vt3.jpg)

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8304/018el8.jpg)

(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3940/019rw9.jpg)

(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1452/020ob9.jpg)
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Post by: hemiken on January 25, 2008 - 09:52:54 pm
Nice Tig work :clapping:
When do you roll the chassis and do the Tiging on it  :drool:
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 04, 2008 - 03:29:15 pm
Wheels arrived and turned out great.  The BAER 15" rotors & 6S calipers fit nicely too.  The wheel centers are raw machined finish for now....

Front's

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2897/012yb2.jpg)

Rear's

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9667/004et7.jpg)

Cage pics-

(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/8388/017af3.jpg)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/686/021kp5.jpg)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6939/022dq9.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 04, 2008 - 03:42:36 pm
Front- Dash bar

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8503/018hi2.jpg)

Looking up at the dash bar/firewall hoop structure

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7574/019vw8.jpg)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3549/023pg3.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 04, 2008 - 03:52:21 pm
Trans mount-

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1217/032bw8.jpg)

Rear upper control arm brackets-

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5132/028ge3.jpg)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7238/031rp7.jpg)

(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6774/033yy2.jpg)

more updates later.....
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Post by: MoparCar on February 04, 2008 - 08:36:28 pm
Wow, I've said it before but the fabrication skills are amazing! It's your Dad's correct?----tell him for me if he doesn't keep up on these threads. Amaaazing workmanship. That really shows years of experience I sure can appreciate.

Question: When you are fabricating simple steel suspension mounts, link brackets, etc. what material are you using (chromemoly or mild steel?) and do you heat treat the welds after to keep them from being brittle or anything special? A little more on the technical side, but I'm considering building my own triagulated or panhard 4 or 3-link rear suspension and would love to have your opinion.

Thanks, Wes
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 05, 2008 - 01:47:10 am
Wow, I've said it before but the fabrication skills are amazing! It's your Dad's correct?----tell him for me if he doesn't keep up on these threads. Amaaazing workmanship. That really shows years of experience I sure can appreciate.

Question: When you are fabricating simple steel suspension mounts, link brackets, etc. what material are you using (chromemoly or mild steel?) and do you heat treat the welds after to keep them from being brittle or anything special? A little more on the technical side, but I'm considering building my own triagulated or panhard 4 or 3-link rear suspension and would love to have your opinion.

Thanks, Wes

Thanks Wes... brackets are mild steel, so heat treating isn't necessary.
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Post by: Fitz73Chrgr on February 05, 2008 - 04:43:52 pm
As everyone has said before, that thing is going to be one bad-ass car!

When designing the frame of the car, did you guys calculate exactly where to put each member?  If not, how do you know that none of the pieces of the frame are zero-force members? 
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 06, 2008 - 01:14:57 am
Jason Rushforth recently finished the renderings of the Challenger.  They turned out great!

His artwork is popping up all over the place...

(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3231/badhirespl2.jpg)

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6334/badchallengerpq9.jpg)

Looking forward to seeing the drawings in person!

www.jasonrushforth.com
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Post by: hemiken on February 06, 2008 - 08:34:19 am
 :clapping: Guys the rendering looks very impressive.

I really love the idea of extending the 71 Challenger R/T stripes past the letters all the way to the back.  This treatment would look great on other striped Challengers aswell. :drool:
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Post by: Jacksboys on February 06, 2008 - 12:26:35 pm
Wow, I've said it before but the fabrication skills are amazing!
:iagree:

Those are some clean welds  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 06, 2008 - 05:40:05 pm
thanks guys... 

Getting closer.....

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1281/003wp7.jpg)

(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2324/004vb6.jpg)

(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4792/005yr0.jpg)
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Post by: NoMope Greg on February 06, 2008 - 06:58:19 pm
 :wow:  :clapping:

That's some amazing work!  I'm looking forward to seeing the finished car.
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Post by: BIGSHCLUNK on February 06, 2008 - 11:28:28 pm
:wow:  :clapping:

That's some amazing work!  I'm looking forward to seeing the finished car.

Wish my welding skills werehalf as good!  :grinyes:
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Post by: Street_Challenged73 on February 06, 2008 - 11:53:22 pm
Awesome progress as usual!! :cheers:  Those renderings are amazing, too! :2thumbs:
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Post by: BacardiCBR on February 08, 2008 - 05:37:17 pm
Jesus, that's nice!!!  :wow:

Will the car be raced!?
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 12, 2008 - 01:30:47 pm
Update-  the car will come off the fixture today and on a trailer heading to the Portland Rod & Custom Show on Thursday............

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3441/005zi3.jpg)

www.hotrodshows.com (http://www.hotrodshows.com)

Hope to meet some of you at the show!
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Post by: Swedefish on February 12, 2008 - 01:44:56 pm
Nice welding  :2thumbs:, wish I had that skill.   :cheers:
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Post by: NoMope Greg on February 12, 2008 - 02:39:38 pm
Nice welding  :2thumbs:, wish I had that skill.   :cheers:

 :iagree:  Or at least the time and equipment to develop that kind of skill or something close to it.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 15, 2008 - 11:17:55 am
On the trailer....

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6421/001zv8.jpg)

(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/9641/003ot7.jpg)

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4954/009go3.jpg)

(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2143/007cw5.jpg)

(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4584/010cu1.jpg)
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Post by: NoMope Greg on February 15, 2008 - 11:50:58 am
Beautiful!
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Post by: 71bigblock on February 15, 2008 - 01:16:27 pm
I think I just crapped myself.  Gorgeous.   :2thumbs:
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Post by: PasiR on February 15, 2008 - 02:42:17 pm
Simply AWESOME!  :eek2: :eek2: and all the tig work  :worshippy :worshippy
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Post by: Swedefish on February 15, 2008 - 03:59:07 pm
 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
 :wow:
Simply unbelievable. :2thumbs:
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Post by: hezzel on February 15, 2008 - 04:00:50 pm
A real killer :worshippy
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Post by: ShelbyDogg on February 15, 2008 - 05:53:14 pm
TJ,
That is one Bad-A$$ Challenger.

Very nice!
Rob
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Post by: hemiken on February 15, 2008 - 06:41:08 pm
 :woo: I opened the post and said "Oh my god"...............

One picture their looks as if the tail lights are on. :smilielol:
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Post by: thedodgeboys on February 15, 2008 - 06:45:01 pm
 :iagree: :worshippy :drool:


WOW
WOW
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Post by: Danishmopar on February 15, 2008 - 11:22:14 pm


Damm its nice...
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Post by: dutch on February 16, 2008 - 04:44:06 pm
bye bye chip...  :burnout:

have you chosen a color yet?
do you ever ask yourselfs the question;  "did I build that thing?"   :cooldancing:
This project should be "car of the month for the rest of the year!  :picture:
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Post by: MoparCar on February 16, 2008 - 06:20:17 pm
Wowwwww!!!!!
I'm going to post this as another topic also, but can you tell me what your ride height is? Rocker to ground or? I'm weighing my suspension options and this would be ideal.

Thanks, Wes
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 18, 2008 - 02:04:30 am
Brandon Foster, photographer and co-owner of Crawl Magazine, took some pics of the car this afternoon.  Lighting wasn't the best and the car was covered in hand prints and the occasional booger.............

www.crawlmag.com

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_1.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_2.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_4.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_6.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 18, 2008 - 02:07:47 am
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_7.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_8.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_9.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_10.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_11.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 18, 2008 - 02:10:11 am
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_12.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_18.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_19.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_20.jpg)

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_25.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 18, 2008 - 02:20:12 am
Hinges, stock fender mounting points, and steering are still "in the works"

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/70%20Challenger/pdx_rods_customs_08_21.jpg)

Looking forward to posting updates soon :)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 18, 2008 - 02:29:14 am
Wowwwww!!!!!
I'm going to post this as another topic also, but can you tell me what your ride height is? Rocker to ground or? I'm weighing my suspension options and this would be ideal.

Thanks, Wes

car is at ride height in all pics... no bags on this build.

5" at the front of the rocker (lowest point of the car) and 6" at the rear.  IIRC, the height of the roof line is ~49"
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71_340Challenger on February 18, 2008 - 03:26:44 am
 :worshippy :wow: it is time to take a little break and enjoy the show!  You guys flat have some bad-ass fab skills! Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on February 18, 2008 - 08:23:15 pm
car is at ride height in all pics... no bags on this build.

5" at the front of the rocker (lowest point of the car) and 6" at the rear.  IIRC, the height of the roof line is ~49"


Thanks! Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on February 19, 2008 - 02:34:40 am
Simply awesome!!! :faint: :worship:  That stance is just right and the craftsmanship is just phenomenal. :cheers: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Danishmopar on February 19, 2008 - 05:03:21 am



I can only say Damm Its Nice  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Jacksboys on February 20, 2008 - 01:34:36 am
Looking good so far  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 01, 2008 - 10:40:07 am
Seattle Roadster Show this weekend.  A lot of nice "pt style" cars to check out.  Some good Mopar love too....  Two Hemi convertible challengers (one pushing 800 hp!) and a smokin' 69 Charger come to mind...

 The Challenger will go back on the frame fixture next week.  Updates soon!

(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7629/pdxrodcustom041wt0.jpg)

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1184/pdxrodcustom031xu3.jpg)

(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7656/pdxrodcustom038co2.jpg)

(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3996/pdxrodcustom043hu1.jpg)

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5875/pdxrodcustom046tg8.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: BacardiCBR on March 01, 2008 - 11:42:39 am
I've already said this, but what the hell - that car is awesome!!  Nice tuck on the cage   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: thedodgeboys on March 01, 2008 - 11:53:36 am
I've already said this, but what the hell - that car is awesome!!  Nice tuck on the cage   :2thumbs:

 :iagree:   AWESOM!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Travis72 on March 01, 2008 - 02:24:19 pm
 :worshippy   The metal work on the body is so awesome that it doesn't even need paint!   :smokin:   

Travis
72 Cuda
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on March 01, 2008 - 02:25:12 pm
I need my update fix.....more pics, progress......please..... :bigsmile:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 03, 2008 - 12:31:44 pm
I need my update fix.....more pics, progress......please..... :bigsmile:


thanks guys!  updates soon...

Couple other pics I have saved of the chassis through the side windows of the car.

(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/443/pdxrodcustom034jf1.jpg)

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1097/pdxrodcustom050pd4.jpg)

Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: HP2 on March 03, 2008 - 01:39:08 pm
Have you weighed it yet? That looks like an awful lot of tubing.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 03, 2008 - 01:57:11 pm
Have you weighed it yet? That looks like an awful lot of tubing.

not yet.  The tubing wasn't just added to the car, it replaced the entire subframe/unibody/firewall/etc... the trip to the scrap yard paid well...

The drivetrain is a lot lighter than stock also - aluminum suspension components, transmission & differential, true three-piece forged aluminum wheels aluminum bracketry, etc.... not to mention the 6.1 HEMI is pretty light.

Again, this is a street car that will be in the 800HP range w/twin turbo's... Weight is always a concern, but the car isn't that heavy (pretty easy to move around, load on and off a trailer). We will weigh the car when it is a finished roller....

Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: thedodgeboys on March 03, 2008 - 07:18:42 pm
Nice car....
How many feet of tubing is that?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on March 03, 2008 - 10:13:27 pm
Will you be building the motor yourself? Any details on the twin turbos yet? Size, intercooler, crank/pistons/compression, computer? I'd love to follow the details on this also. There's a lot of talk of twin turbo 3G hemis out there but I don't recall any actual finished and running at this time.

Thanks, Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on April 16, 2008 - 09:56:48 pm
 :popcorn:
Any updates?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on May 26, 2008 - 10:18:20 pm
Are you alive? I see your posts on other sites....please give us an update! :bigsmile:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on May 28, 2008 - 04:48:55 pm
Are you alive? I see your posts on other sites....please give us an update! :bigsmile:

Sorry!  I was out of town last week :)

Updates, yes...  Mostly new parts (mock-up turbos, wastegates, throttle bodies, 321 S/S mandrel bends, etc)

Pictures soon!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on May 28, 2008 - 10:38:14 pm
Awesome! Looking forward to the pictures.
Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 06, 2008 - 06:19:11 pm
Awesome! Looking forward to the pictures.
Wes


Ok, time for a long overdue update. 

Where to start...

Turbo & Exhaust Goodies from Cone Engineering and Rockford Racecraft

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8940/coneov1.jpg)
www.coneeng.com (http://www.coneeng.com)

(http://www.syborgtwinturbo.com/albums/Renderings/RR_Logo.jpg)
www.rockfordracecraft.com (http://www.rockfordracecraft.com)

(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/883/conerockfordracecraftpame7.jpg)
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1710/321ssconeengubendshj1.jpg)

Thanks again to Cone Engineering for supplying the 321 S/S U-Bends, Collector & muffler components, transitions, V-Band clamps, bellows and more...  I highly recommend Cone for their quality products and great customer service.

Not pictured are the ball bearing PTE mock up turbos.  Guy at Rockford Racecraft will work his ceramic magic on the turbo housings and Tial F46 wastegates.  Guy is a great resource and really knows his stuff...  His technical input with the project is also greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 06, 2008 - 06:42:18 pm
Also included in the previous picture is one of the Accufab throttle bodies.

We are working with Automotive Design Engineering on a custom intake for the Challenger.  Stay Tuned...

(http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/src/ade_title.jpg)
www.automotivedesigneng.com (http://www.automotivedesigneng.com)

We are using a custom width Woodward power rack and pinion and servo.
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5007/woodwardpowerrpvm5.jpg)
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3554/woodwardservokx8.jpg)

The stock harmonic balancer will be replaced by an ATI Super Damper.  I will post pictures in a few days of the new damper.  Another example of a vendor with great products, technical support, and customer service. 

(http://www.atiracing.com/transbuilder/ati-logo-243x72.gif)
www.atiracing.com (http://www.atiracing.com)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: thedodgeboys on June 06, 2008 - 07:08:48 pm
 :bigsmile: nice to have new stuff  :bigsmile:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 06, 2008 - 07:16:33 pm
Couple drawings of the 6.1 HEMI intake designed by Bob at Automotive Design Engineering.  Not a lot of room in the engine bay on this car since the chassis is built with a low ride height.   We gave Bob a pretty tight height window to work with.  The Dual throttle bodies will tuck nicely benath the R/T hood  Can't wait for the finished product...

The intake will be fabricated in house once we receive all of the machined goodies....

Intake flange
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9224/intakeflange2qx3.jpg)

Dual Throttle body intake
(http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7442/engineassemblyrevann2.jpg)

Bob also designed some trick T4 turbo flanges to compliment the purge welded 321 stainless headers. 

(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5610/turboflangeeu4.jpg)


Another shameless plug - www.automotivedesigneng.com
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 06, 2008 - 07:37:59 pm
We are also working with Ididit Inc. on modifying their new 70-74 E-Body Steering Column for our application.  Tim has used many Ididit Columns in various projects over the years, so we are thrilled to have Ididit's support.

(http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7105/ididitlogo100nb5.jpg)

(http://www.ididitinc.com/retrofit_pictures/7-74_cuda-challenger_BPC_FS.jpg)

www.ididitinc.com (http://www.ididitinc.com)

More details on the Mopar specific column-

"Introducing ididit’s newest addition to its Retrofit Made To Fit Series of columns!  The 1970-74 Chrysler E-Body Cuda/Challenger Tilt Columns with Ignition are here!  This brand new design is a direct bolt in and connects directly to a Manual, Power or even Rack & Pinion steering application with a single U-Joint change.  Also introducing for the first time, 3 different ways to collapse making it safer than any other column on the market.  Standard features of these Made To Fit columns are that they are 100% American Made, 8-Postion Tilt, Ignition, includes the Floor Mount and optional Steering Wheel Adaptor that will bolt directly to your OE wheel!  Available finishes include Paintable Steel, Chrome and Black Powder Coating.  Don’t let your E-Body go without this incredible Made To Fit steering column made to bolt right in to your existing application!"

http://www.ididitinc.com/retrofit_columns/70_74_cuda-challenger_fs.html
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 06, 2008 - 07:54:51 pm
More (fabrication) updates soon-

Also in the works-

Autometer Gauges

(http://www.autometer.com/img/logo01.jpg)

www.autometer.com (http://www.autometer.com)

Nitrous Express - need I say more?

(http://www.syborgtwinturbo.com/albums/Renderings/NX_400.jpg)

and

Centerforce - clutch and pressure plate

The guys at Centerforce are designing the clutch off of the Mopar Performance 6.1 HEMI flywheel...

(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/315/centerforcelogopj9.jpg)

www.centerforce.com
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on June 06, 2008 - 11:13:52 pm
Nice stuff! I love the intake!
Thanks for the update.
Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Travis72 on June 06, 2008 - 11:30:27 pm
Wow.  Impressive.  The steering column looks really nice, so great job working with them!  Too bad I already have a Flaming River or I would be buying one of those.

Travis
72 Cuda
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: BacardiCBR on June 07, 2008 - 12:21:41 pm
KA-CHING!!!  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 :clapping:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: IMNCARN82 on June 07, 2008 - 08:25:03 pm
 :droolingbounce:     Yeah nice intake. the whole thing is way over the top. :crazy: :bigsmile: :worshippy
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 11, 2008 - 01:39:46 pm
More parts

Sparco Modena's arrived today (better pics soon)

(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/5296/611updates014rz2.jpg)

And a picture of one of the stainless CNC machined T4 flanges (again, better pics soon)

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3866/pic0067fc2.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on June 11, 2008 - 06:14:49 pm
Sweetness!!!  I think I'm eventually going with a set of leather Sparcos to replace my worn, cloth racing seats in my soon-to-be summer driver.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: mopar_guy on June 11, 2008 - 06:23:22 pm
everything about this car is top notch,i love it! great work  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 11, 2008 - 07:46:09 pm
Thanks guys, the Sparco's definitely aren't the cheapest aftermarket seat option available... 

The Modena is a high quality well made seat, unlike the overpriced yard furniture my wife just HAD to have. :)

They aren't too overkill either in the "tuner look" department either.  A lot of "racing" seats have huge shoulder bolsters and softball size harness holes, etc.  These are nice and trim with a similar side profile as the stock Challenger seats. 

More updates soon :)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 30, 2008 - 04:56:42 pm
a few updates...

ATI's 6.1 HEMI Super Damper...

(http://www.bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2197&g2_serialNumber=4)
(http://www.bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2200&g2_serialNumber=4)
(http://www.bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2540&g2_serialNumber=2)

With the mock-up ball bearing turbos added to the works...

(http://www.bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2525&g2_serialNumber=2)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: EvilTwinATX on June 30, 2008 - 05:03:59 pm
I can hear the BOV now!! What a sweet sweet ride!  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 30, 2008 - 05:31:53 pm
Couple more of the turbos with the ADE flanges.

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6272/625updates007ia4.jpg)
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7255/625updates008my3.jpg)
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2017/challengerheader626003ca9.jpg)

Working on the headers.  Cone Engineering's header alignment tools come in handy-

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6348/challengerheader626009nd0.jpg)
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1527/headers627013xi7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 30, 2008 - 05:53:44 pm
Bob from Automotive Design Engineering put his digitizing equipment to work.  The waterneck protrudes up above the intake flanges on the heads, and the design of the dual throttle body intake is very low.  Bob will input these points into the 3D drawing to check for clearance issues, etc.

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1811/adedigitizer608012ru0.jpg)
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2365/adedigitizer608017ik7.jpg)

Another front the front (including a shot of the custom dash)
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/956/adedigitizer608009am4.jpg)

Oil pan in the works also

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7136/adedigitizer608004fs3.jpg)

Picture of the oil pan flange coming together

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/489/adedigitizer608008cn0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 30, 2008 - 06:17:48 pm
Another big thanks to American Auto Wire for their support. 

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5353/aawlogocolorcd7.jpg)

www.americanautowire.com (http://www.americanautowire.com)

We are using their Highway 22 modular wiring harness kit and trunk mounted battery kit. 

The HWY 22 kit includes:
-2 power circuits supported through 15 fuses and 1 circuit breaker
-Battery and accessory  power tap studs provided for system expansion
-Panel protected with a 175 amp Mega-Fuse junction block with a 8 gauge panel feed wire
-Nylon mechanically secured panel containing secondary push-back locks, has a 7-1/2” x 4-1/2” footprint, 3-3/8” in height, and mounted on a (G10) non-conductive epoxy base
-All power buss bars are constructed of 6 gauge copper
-All wires are constructed from heat resistant (-60F- +275F)
-GXL heavy-wall wire with laser printed circuit identification every 2 inches
-Color coded wires for ease of installation
-All power circuits wires are 12 gauge constructed
-New front loaded vibration proof self- locking (Hooke’s Law) screw down terminal connection
-Dedicated battery and ignition circuits for electronic fuel injection (EFI) Kit contains 3 relays (Horn, Turn Signal & 40 amp Electric Fan or Fuel Pump)
-Turn signal and hazard flasher circuits provided
-8 gauge alternator feed wire provided
-The kit is set-up for a GM “SI” internally regulated alternator or GM 1-wire
-Alternator diode is also provided
-Kit includes 3 (In-dash Ignition, Headlight & Alum. Knob and Floor Dimmer) switches
-GM in-column ignition switch connectors provided, along with 3-7/8” GM steering column connectors with male and female terminals
-Plugs directly most 69-74 GM column and most aftermarket steering columns or use the terminals and connector provided to mate to any column
-Spare circuits available (for power windows, locks, cruise, etc.).
-Engine compartment (oil pressure, water temp, tach, starter, neutral safety, brake switch, ignition switch, distributor (GM HEI or Points), coil, main power and alternator)
-Chassis wiring (fuel pump, electric fan, headlights, running lights, brake lights, 3rd brake lt., directional, license plate, radio, heat & AC, and wipers)
-Full color schematic of overall vehicle wiring along with individual harness subkit instructions for trouble-free installation.

(http://www.americanautowire.com/Highway22_Kit_Features_files/hwy22.jpg)

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2285/625updates024os2.jpg)

Another with the trunk mount battery kit

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7614/625updates025aw6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 30, 2008 - 07:45:02 pm
Couple more header "in process" pics. 

(http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8024/630updates015oj1.jpg)
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7758/630updates011bb6.jpg)

A shot of the merge collector bullets that are included in Cone Engineering's collector kits.  Cone will also pre-weld the bullets for a nominal fee.

Before (Individual vanes with provided assembly tool)
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5754/613progress015mz8.jpg)

After
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2275/630updates013py3.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: ntstlgl1970 on June 30, 2008 - 07:50:06 pm
It's hard to tell from the pictures but are the pipes that close to to the valve cover? Just wondering
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on June 30, 2008 - 08:23:22 pm
It's hard to tell from the pictures but are the pipes that close to to the valve cover? Just wondering

There is an inch of clearance at the bottom of the valve cover (widest point of the block), but the space limitations are tight for sure.

The stock valve covers will be replaced by a set of aluminum covers that are in the works.  Additional provisions will be made to help with heat as well (functional R/T hood scoops, etc).
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: EvilTwinATX on June 30, 2008 - 09:16:16 pm
tj40ounce... I have built some custom door strikers for e-bodies. They are really nice.. why don't you buy a set and put that on that beautiful challenger?! They would look so sweet!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on June 30, 2008 - 11:20:35 pm
You and your shop's work continue to amaze me!!! Wow. Thanks for the update.
Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 10, 2008 - 06:11:12 pm
Updates - KRC Aluminum Pump w/serpentine pulley & 4" crank pulley

(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2706/77udpate002ch7.jpg)
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6992/77udpate001wr1.jpg)

Crank pulley after some machine time....
front
(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5827/772update001hm5.jpg)

back -
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8592/772update002mc0.jpg)

Ready for Tim's crankshaft adapter...
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 10, 2008 - 06:34:55 pm
Crank shaft adapter sequence

Mounting holes drilled/tapped on the rotary table after OD turned to correct diameter
(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6468/772update007ms4.jpg)

Machining correct ID
(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4453/773updates005uj4.jpg)
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4725/78updates001ml1.jpg)

Pulley and adapter assembled onto the backside of the ATI hub
(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9232/78updates002cb6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 10, 2008 - 06:46:03 pm
Back on the engine with the ATI Super Damper in place... 

Yes, there's clearance.  :)

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4935/78updates004xt5.jpg)

With the steering rack in

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2599/79updates001hs3.jpg)

One more - the 12 point bolts will be changed to a low head cap screw.

(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9709/79updates007gz4.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: ntstlgl1970 on July 10, 2008 - 07:30:38 pm
Is this a customer's car or a "showcase" kind of car to show what you guys can do?

or both?

either way it's an awesome car...
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 10, 2008 - 07:54:16 pm
Is this a customer's car or a "showcase" kind of car to show what you guys can do?

or both?

either way it's an awesome car...

thanks,

It's a shop car er... I mean, my dad's car :) 
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on July 10, 2008 - 11:41:42 pm
That's going to be such an animal when it's finished!!!  The TT's on my V-6 get it moving quickly and there probably 1/3 the size, if not smaller.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Stacked440 on July 11, 2008 - 01:35:37 am
Bad Challenger is a HUGE understatement...that thing is the beastiest challenger I have ever seen...anywhere.  Herman Munster would run from that monster :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 808cuda on July 11, 2008 - 03:34:35 am
This post never ceases to amaze me!

What is the PSI rating of that KRC pump?

Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 14, 2008 - 02:25:00 pm
This post never ceases to amaze me!

What is the PSI rating of that KRC pump?



It is a 7.2cc pump that uses -6 changeable control valves (9 optional sizes) with a max speed of 9,000 RPM.  The pump also comes with the standard 1080 psi relieve spool, which should work well with the 2.62 pinion ratio and medium valved servo on the Woodward rack.  A 1450 psi relief is also available, but not necessary since the steering arms on the C5 spindles are a decent length.  Also, the current valve flows 2.11 GPM.  We can switch to a different size to reduce assist, increase feel, etc. 

Long story short, the KRC pump can be fine tuned for our application.  The pulley can be easily removed as well, since it uses a 17 spline hub instead of the standard pressed-on style pulley.

Got back late last night from the Columbus Goodguys show - what a great time.  One of my favorites is a twin-procharged 6.1 HEMI Cuda.  I think it should have made the top five for street machine of the year, but what do I know....  :) 

Congrats to Mike & Jim Ring for another job well done!  They definitely outdid themselves with another beautiful build.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on July 16, 2008 - 06:22:49 am
Is there any info on this twin 'charged 'cuda? I would like to see this. Wonder if PHR will show anything on it.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 17, 2008 - 02:58:56 pm
Is there any info on this twin 'charged 'cuda? I would like to see this. Wonder if PHR will show anything on it.


check out page 3 - owned by Glen Baugus.  Very nice car
http://garagescene.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=45&g2_page=3
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 17, 2008 - 02:59:33 pm
Thanks to Liz & the crew at Popular Hot Rodding for including the Challenger in September's "under construction" section.

(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/2411/phrseptember600dpi001pg0.jpg)

No Tim Haden's here, but the pictures, Jason's rendering, text, etc. look great.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: IMNCARN82 on July 17, 2008 - 05:57:34 pm
I have seen some amazing vehicles. This is the sickest Challenger I've ever seen. Thanks for sharing!! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on July 18, 2008 - 08:58:52 am
check out page 3 - owned by Glen Baugus.  Very nice car
[url]http://garagescene.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=45&g2_page=3[/url]




The car looks good. There are many things that make the car very nice but,..... the smooth tail panel? 
Very nice car indeed though.
I love the smooth glass look!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 18, 2008 - 12:15:07 pm

The car looks good. There are many things that make the car very nice but,..... the smooth tail panel? 
Very nice car indeed though.
I love the smooth glass look!

I wasn't a huge fan of the tail panel area (needed exhaust or something to break it up), but the tail lights were pretty trick. 
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on July 18, 2008 - 12:52:20 pm
I still didn't see any engine bay pics when I went back a third time to loo. She also needs some trick side view mirrors. I like the smoothed handles, glass, and drip rails but it looks a bit too Street Rod, needs more Pro-Tour.


Maybe that's not what they were going for.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 18, 2008 - 08:14:43 pm
I still didn't see any engine bay pics when I went back a third time to loo. She also needs some trick side view mirrors. I like the smoothed handles, glass, and drip rails but it looks a bit too Street Rod, needs more Pro-Tour.


Maybe that's not what they were going for.

I have some I can post later this weekend.  pretty cool intercooler setup (in the cowl).
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Jacksboys on July 20, 2008 - 04:53:10 pm
That car is really starting to look SWEET!  Keep it up   :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 24, 2008 - 02:42:58 pm
Quick update-

Stainless header flanges (designed by ADE) should be here on Monday.  They will be pretty hard to see when installed in the car, but will be a nice touch when the engine is on display at SEMA this year.

(http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9986/exhaustflangeoi7.jpg)
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7889/exhaustflangelrck6.jpg)

-8 Fuel rails are done also - thanks Bob!

(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9430/724updates022ol7.jpg)

www.automotivedesigneng.com
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on July 24, 2008 - 02:49:58 pm
CAD drawing of the fuel rail-

(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2695/fuelrailej6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Stacked440 on July 24, 2008 - 03:32:34 pm
These drawings make me miss Autocad inventor :crying:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on July 25, 2008 - 07:12:51 am
Those header flanges are...... BAD!

I like what you guys are doing with that Demon too!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on August 04, 2008 - 08:49:47 pm
More header progress-

ADE flanges - 3/8" stainless
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8457/730headers049tm3.jpg)

Each tube is purge welded separately
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7996/730headers060bb0.jpg)

Looking at the flange and shaped primary tubes
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3719/header84028me7.jpg)

From the front
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/632/header84027zg6.jpg)

Close-up of the flange and primary tube back on the engine
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8503/730headers167wd3.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: CHUCKS71 on August 04, 2008 - 08:57:47 pm
 :wow: That's Bad A$$!!!  :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on August 04, 2008 - 09:03:43 pm
Cone Engineering Collectors and merge bullets

(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4687/header84034bp2.jpg)
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7820/header84062oc2.jpg)

Looking into the collector
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/5416/header84076ag4.jpg)

From the top
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2761/header84082yn9.jpg)

Another
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8897/header84075zy0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on August 04, 2008 - 09:25:07 pm
Few more for now (without the custom green tape)... 

View from below the dash through the invisible firewall
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/582/730headers162wv2.jpg)

Looking up
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9228/730headers157sa8.jpg)

side
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5434/730headers106dm6.jpg)

header to valve cover clearance
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5982/730headers176lh4.jpg)

last one for (pre-collector)
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6600/730headers156kh6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: gkring on August 04, 2008 - 09:47:06 pm
I have some I can post later this weekend.  pretty cool intercooler setup (in the cowl).

Engine pics on page 14 and 15
Sorry, but I think that box in the cowl is actually the air intake box. it does look like an intercooler, but I think the fins you are seeing are actually the air filter and the tubes run into the intake for the blowers. now maybe there is an intercooler in the fenderwells, but I am betting a car like this doesn't need an intercooler. very nice!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on August 04, 2008 - 09:51:44 pm
Sorry, but I think that box in the cowl is actually the air intake box. it does look like an intercooler, but I think the fins you are seeing are actually the air filter and the tubes run into the intake for the blowers. now maybe there is an intercooler in the fenderwells, but I am betting a car liek this doesn't need an intercooler. very nice!

Nice guy as well.  My bad, I was shooting from the hip on that one (after a long lay-over in Houston).  Fit and finish are top notch for sure.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: SalTy71CuDa on August 04, 2008 - 10:54:41 pm
HOLY CRAP! Now that I've gone through 3 to 4 different keyboards from all the drooling i've been doing.
 I can finally say  :worshippy that Chally is just freakin awsome!!!!! Cant wait to see the actual finished project.  :worshippy  :droolingbounce:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on August 04, 2008 - 11:20:51 pm
Wow!!!!!!  :jumping: I can't believe the detail to this build. You guys are amazing! Keep it up!
If I could afford it, I'd just dump my car at your shop and tell you do your thing. But you inspire the rest of us. I'm really looking forward to the products for the 3G Hemi you're working on with various manufacturers. We need all of it!

Great stuff!

Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 472 R/T SE on August 14, 2008 - 10:55:37 pm
Quite simply the BADDEST Challenger on earth.   :thumbsup:

And to think this is being done here local.  Hopefully that means I get to see it.  :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on August 22, 2008 - 08:11:07 pm
Quick update - received some of the ADE intake parts from the machine shop

throttle body mounting plate
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5156/818updates002qb1.jpg)

With the throttle body's mocked up
(http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9325/818progress003pe7.jpg)

Also, more turbo plumbing.  Waiting on a 1 5/8" mandrel bends to plumb the Tial wastegates from Guy at www.rockfordracecraft.com
(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/981/820wastegate001ke1.jpg)

(http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5250/820wastegate003xh0.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on September 24, 2008 - 05:36:31 pm
Update - Intake fabrication underway

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7428/919intake005gs8.jpg)
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8269/919demon004uy6.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on September 24, 2008 - 05:54:54 pm
An upgrade for the stock 6.1 HEMI arrived earlier this week - a 426 C.I.D HEMI stroker short block (based on the new generation SRT-8) from Plum Floored Creations - Your source for New Hemi Swaps

www.plumfloored.com

Engine specs-
-426 Machined 6.1 Liter Block, 4.090 Bore, Billet Main Caps, Line honed,  Internally balanced, New forging Crank (4.050 X 2.100) , Aftermarket H-Beam Rods (6.125 X .927), Rings, Bearings, ARP Main/Head Studs, Mahle Coated Dish Pistons (8.8 to 1), and Cometic head gaskets.

- Aluminum "Factory Fresh" head castings, 5-Axis CNC-ported , "Beehive" competition valve springs, One-piece stainless steel 2.055" Intake and 1.600" Exhaust Valves, Titanium 7° Valve Spring Retainers, Machined 7° round groove valve locks, High-Temperature Viton® valve seals, Bronze alloy valve guides and hardened, custom valve seats, Premium "5-angle" CNC-machined valve job, new rockers & shafts, competition push rods, new lifters, timing chain.

-Power Ported Performance Custom Grind Turbo Camshaft.

-Expected output 700-800 horsepower

The heads and camshaft should arrive later this week.

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/143/922updates025oo6.jpg)

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3679/922updates026uh1.jpg)

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7392/922updates030fq4.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MEK-Dangerfield on September 24, 2008 - 06:24:05 pm
WOWSA!!    :wow:    :clapping:   :woo:   :woohoo:


Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on September 25, 2008 - 04:41:11 pm
Received the A/C compressor from Hot Rod Air - Sanden SD7176 with a polished finish.

www.hotrodair.com

(http://www.hotrodair.com/site_images/top_logo.gif)

(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8135/925updates014lu5.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: black71 on September 29, 2008 - 08:41:01 pm
first off WOW! wish i could do a build like that! sencondly this may be a stupid question, but why corvette stuff and not viper or such? not criticising at all just curious....but man again WOW!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: HP2 on September 30, 2008 - 07:07:03 am
Corvette stuff is much easier to acquire and has more aftermarket support.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: black71 on September 30, 2008 - 06:48:08 pm
Corvette stuff is much easier to acquire and has more aftermarket support.
sounds like a good reason!  :bigsmile:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 01, 2008 - 12:07:41 pm
Corvette stuff is much easier to acquire and has more aftermarket support.

There were a few reasons we went with Corvette components.  Availability and aftermarket support definitely ranked high on the list.  Tim has worked with Corvette suspension components on past projects and he wanted to utilize the rear-mounted Tremec T-56 six speed transmission and Getrag IRS differential. 

There is a GM name plate on the German made differential, but none of the suspension arms, uprights, etc were made by GM if that makes any difference...  :)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 01, 2008 - 12:08:13 pm
Check out the 5 page Challenger feature in the November issue of Super Rod magazine!

www.superrod.com (http://www.superrod.com)

(http://www.superrod.com/Media/PublicationsIssue/SR_0811_COV1_TOC.jpg)

(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n408/hwynova/BAD_1.jpg)

(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n408/hwynova/BAD_2.jpg)

(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n408/hwynova/BAD_3.jpg)

PDF version of the article

http://www.superrod.com/Media/PublicationsArticle/SR_0811_70Challenger_2.pdf (http://www.superrod.com/Media/PublicationsArticle/SR_0811_70Challenger_2.pdf)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on October 01, 2008 - 06:19:49 pm
Very cool!!!  Congrats on making it into that magazine!! :cheers:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 06, 2008 - 08:24:35 pm
Few updates-

Received a set of 8 - 71lb/hour low impedance peak & hold fuel injectors from RC Engineering.  Very nice parts and their tech support department is top notch.

www.rceng.com

(http://www.rceng.com/images/rc/rclogo_fi3.gif)

(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/6451/105rcengineeringinjectowg9.jpg)

Also, the guys at Revolution Industries (http://www.rev-in.com) did an awesome job building www.bruningautodesign.com and www.etikitchallenger.com .  Still have a few things to tune up and finish, but Adam and Ian did a great job.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 06, 2008 - 08:39:51 pm
Finished up a couple loose ends with the turbo and wastegate plumbing. 

First set of pictures show some of the steps involved in machining a set of one-off 6-bolt stainless flanges.

Male & Female halves
(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/1479/105updates085ce7.jpg)

Tim Machining the champfer
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5668/105updates057hz2.jpg)

(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/9398/105updates061yl4.jpg)

Drilled, tapped, and counterbored on the rotary table
(http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6005/105updates064ul8.jpg)

Assembled - the black socket cap screws will be replaced with ARP stainless fasteners
(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/4522/105updates100na7.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 06, 2008 - 08:50:35 pm
Flanges and wastegate's tacked in place

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8687/105updates103ou1.jpg)

(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2518/105updates111zo9.jpg)

Finish welded... 
(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7282/105updates132ql7.jpg)

(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3573/105updates135ti9.jpg)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 06, 2008 - 09:09:49 pm
Few more...

(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9569/106updates001ht2.jpg)

(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1411/106updates003mu6.jpg)

(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6679/106updates004vq2.jpg)

More updates in the next few days...  Centerforce Clutch, Intake and oil pan fabrication.  Who knows, maybe the turbos will show up before the end of the month :rolleyes:

:cool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 07, 2008 - 01:07:24 pm
SEMA 2008 - Cone Engineering Press Release -

Quote from: coneeng
Presenting … The Art of the Fabricator!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Richard Craig, Director of Sales
Cone Engineering, Inc/Megs Exhaust Builders Warehouse
10883 Portal Drive
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
Phone: 714-828-3580
rich@coneeng.com
[url]http://www.coneeng.com[/url]



Los Alamitos, CA, September 29, 2008 - At most trade shows you will find a booth filled with merchandise, in the case of the SEMA Show it’s usually the latest and greatest in automotive parts with a few cars or other vehicles offered up as eye candy. But how about something completely different? This year at the 2008 SEMA Show, Cone Engineering presents The Art of the Fabricator.

This theme celebrates the artistry of the fabricator and the works that come out of their labor. Featured in the Cone Engineering booth (Hot Rod Alley, #23475) at this year’s SEMA Show (Nov. 4th – 7th), will be the work of several prominent engine, exhaust, and Hot Rod builders. Visitors to the booth will get the chance to see up close how Megs Exhaust Builders Warehouse components actually come to life in real world examples. You’ll have the opportunity to meet the builders, discuss their work and find out how these components simplified their fabrication work. Also part of the exhibit will be the automotive artwork of painter Larry Gardinier. To commemorate this event, a special limited-edition Gardinier print was commissioned as a gift for our visitors.

Fabricators currently scheduled to attend/display:
American Racing Headers, Dodge V-10 Viper
Bruning Auto Design, Hemi Twin Turbo
Chad’s Custom Headers, Big Block Chevy, and Ford Model A
Fuller Hot Rods, Buell Twin
Hollywood Hot Rods, Ardun Flathead, and vintage style Small Block Chevy
JSE Racing, Turbocharged Air-cooled VW Dragster Engine
Megs Exhaust Builders Warehouse, Flathead V8
Revolution Mini Works, Mini Cooper


Cone Engineering was established in 1970 to provide pre-fabricated exhaust components to automotive and motorcycle companies, both OEM and aftermarket. Cone Engineering is also known for the Megs brand of exhaust tips that are very popular in the hot rod and street rod market.

In 2006, Megs Exhaust Builders Warehouse was created to provide fabricators with products that had previously been available to only large manufacturers. These products are designed to speed production, reduce costs and generally make the fabricator’s life easier! We produce a number of items you will find nowhere else, both in quality and design. Our goal is to be your source for fabricated exhaust products. We are constantly adding additional products to give a full range of items needed to create custom designed and built exhaust systems.

Our constantly evolving and expanding website helps Megs Exhaust Builders Warehouse customers locate the components they need for their projects. New products are continually being added to expand the depth and breadth of our offerings. To see our current products and learn more about us visit our website at [url=http://www.coneeng.com]www.coneeng.com[/url].

Cone Engineering, Inc. is a leader in offering custom, semi-custom, and private-label manufacturing options for fabricated exhaust components.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Confederate Cuda on October 07, 2008 - 01:44:54 pm
Great work guys. This is without a doubt the most radical challenger I have ever seen! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on October 07, 2008 - 08:32:27 pm
That's pure skills.  :worshippy Wow. I sure like the detail and effort to keep us all informed. Your websites look great now. Per your website on the Chally it looks like your going for the SMOTY competition this year? I hope you nail it. It would be well deserved! The Ring Brothers are good, but we need a Mopar in the winner's circle---Plus you'll have a great advantage with your chassis/performance now that they require actual laps and a show of performance.

Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Young _Gun on October 07, 2008 - 08:45:48 pm
wow! that is some amazing work.
I saw the pics on your website, and I really like y'alls work. I just have one question. this is different from the E Tikit challenger you have shown on your main website, correct?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 07, 2008 - 09:14:39 pm
Great work guys. This is without a doubt the most radical challenger I have ever seen! :2thumbs:


Thanks for the positive feedback!  :)

That's pure skills.  :worshippy Wow. I sure like the detail and effort to keep us all informed. Your websites look great now. Per your website on the Chally it looks like your going for the SMOTY competition this year? I hope you nail it. It would be well deserved! The Ring Brothers are good, but we need a Mopar in the winner's circle---Plus you'll have a great advantage with your chassis/performance now that they require actual laps and a show of performance.

Wes


Hope to have the car finished by next Summer, but it is an after hours build and we need to keep the lights on...  I hate missing deadlines (even when they're self imposed)  :)

wow! that is some amazing work.
I saw the pics on your website, and I really like y'alls work. I just have one question. this is different from the E Tikit challenger you have shown on your main website, correct?


Thanks - No, it is the same car.  The e-tikit site only shows the rendering, but I plan to change the gallery link picture with the wheel to one of the outdoor bare metal shots (like on our main site).

We also have another "Pro-Touring" Mopar build in the shop right now.  It's not a Cuda or a Challenger, but a 1971 Demon which will be one of the sickest A-bodies out there.  Getting the full treatment, 6.1 HEMI backed with a 4l65RR paddle shifted trans, 3 piece wheels, low ride height, etc.  We "altered" the RMS alterkation front k-member and also built a tri-4 bar rear link suspension, hand-built inner fenders with integrated down bars, stainless hard lined plumbing (AC, PS, brakes, and fuel), and we also built an aluminum flush mounted fuel cell.  The owner wants to drive it low (coilovers, no bags).

Check out Rob's 71 Demon in the gallery.  The pictures towards the end are at ride height with 5" clearance at the lowest point of the car (oil pan/front x-member).

http://bruningautodesign.com/gallery.html
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Post by: Jacksboys on October 09, 2008 - 01:35:17 am
Wow, that welding job looks perfect.  The car is really coming along nicely.   :2thumbs:
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Post by: go-fish on October 09, 2008 - 09:55:43 am
Is there a thread on pro-touring thread on the Duster?
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 09, 2008 - 03:24:57 pm
Is there a thread on pro-touring thread on the Duster?


He posts on pro-touring.com, lateral-g.com, a-bodies only form, bigblockdart forum and???

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=12777
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45804
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=40407

rjsjea is the owner's screen name.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 09, 2008 - 03:56:24 pm
recent picture at ride height.

(http://bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4637&g2_GALLERYSID=4b479d0e64cf957b5df11e50d63e9dd9)
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Post by: MoparCar on October 09, 2008 - 08:31:05 pm
Not to get way off topic of your challenger build, but what is the ride height of the Demon? How is this usually measured when everyone refers to ride height......especially when referencing this on a custom suspension/chassis car? Is it at the rocker, or? Example: If you needed to give your ride height measurement to a subframe builder.

Thanks, Wes
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 09, 2008 - 09:34:49 pm
Not to get way off topic of your challenger build, but what is the ride height of the Demon? How is this usually measured when everyone refers to ride height......especially when referencing this on a custom suspension/chassis car? Is it at the rocker, or? Example: If you needed to give your ride height measurement to a subframe builder.

Thanks, Wes

Ride height is 5" at the lowest point - oil pan/front cross member.  The sub rails were also sectioned and raised (at the front of the door) to keep them at that 5" mark.  The alterkation K-member was raised up 2" into the car, and the motor is also 2" relative to the body.  This kept the suspension in the optimal range (not cambered out like every other Honda Civic on the road).  The tri-4 link was also set up at this height. 

In essence, the body was lowered over the suspension and engine, lowering the center of gravity of the car (not the other way around).  Regarding your original question, I saw your question in the '65 Mustang build thread.  If personally like how Art Morrison's rear tri-4 link is set up over Chassisworks.  Both are quality products, but the AM setup keeps the upper and lower axle mounting points lower on the axle, which is really beneficial when building a car to drive low without airing it out.  The CA setup puts the upper link mounts above the axle centerline.  If you're trying to keep your uppers from aiming straight down towards the ground (or cutting out your rear floor area to fabricate brackets), the AM setup is a better choice.

Look through the Demon build gallery, we used AM axle brackets and went with 1 3/8" 4130 link material (looks way better than the standard 1" links IMO) to get a better idea of what I'm trying to describe... :)

To keep it on topic, we usually reference ride height clearance relative to the lowest point on a car.  If you your rockers are 8" from the ground, but your headers are only 3" off the ground...  You only have 3" of ride height IMO.  Other people may think differently, but bragging to your buddies that you have 8" of ride height while you high center on a speed bump doesn't do you a whole lot of good. 

That said, the Challenger's pinch seams were removed, and the lowest point on the car at ride height is 5" from the ground at the front of the rockers.  If I were to tell a subframe builder what I wanted, I would mock the car up at ride height with the wheels and tires you plan to use (at least the same size).  Look at the clearance you have from the top of the axle to the stock frame rail, clearance from the stock rails to the ground, possible link mount locations, and go from there.  Your goal might require a lot of extensive fab work, or maybe you only need to cut the stock rails out and a little bit of the stock floor.  Draw up a side view sketch of the car with all the measurements showing the axle location relative to suspension travel, height the rails need to be after the axle and height from the ground before the axle...  Chassisworks, AM, etc should be able to build rails that work with their suspension from there, or at least get you close... :) 

Sorry for the long drawn out explanation (or attempt at).  Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Post by: MoparCar on October 10, 2008 - 12:25:53 am
Wow. Thank you very much for the detailed explanation. I'm going to study your explanation a bit. That makes so much more sense. I may ask a few more questions after I study a few things on the car and the fabrication/chassis books.

Again, thanks for taking the time.
Wes
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Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on October 14, 2008 - 06:58:30 am
Showed this thread to my classmates the other day, all were very impressed with the car, keep it up!!!
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 14, 2008 - 01:32:01 pm
Showed this thread to my classmates the other day, all were very impressed with the car, keep it up!!!

Thanks :)  I will post updates later today or tomorrow.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 18, 2008 - 01:56:55 pm
Intake fabrication update -

Fuel Rail mounting tabs & recess machined.  Will tap the rails for the XRP O-ring ORB fittings early next week. 

(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6237/1017updates020mt3.jpg)

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9682/1017updates029lw4.jpg)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7720/1017updates034zy8.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 18, 2008 - 02:08:05 pm
Intake pictures - still have a few things to finish up

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3737/1017updates082ur3.jpg)

(http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/8113/1017updates085ct9.jpg)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/425/1017updates079tq0.jpg)

(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/1128/1017updates086bf4.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 18, 2008 - 02:24:46 pm
Tim should have the oil pan finished today as well.  The bottom of the pan matches the Bellhousing...

Couple of progress pics - flange is 1/2" 6061 designed by Automotive Design Engineering.

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7607/1017updates066ms7.jpg)

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/709/1017updates083xc1.jpg)

Stay tuned for progress updates as we get the engine ready to display at SEMA in a couple weeks.  Also received a "one-off" clutch package from Centerforce and also some thermal protection products from DEI.
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Post by: MoparCar on October 19, 2008 - 12:22:12 am
Those pieces are amazing.......will the intake and pan be available for purchase? Wow, unbelieveable. I need the intake........and throttle bodies and turbos and skills....... of course. I wish I were going to SEMA just to see your car. Very nice. I can really appreciate the workmanship and I hope some of it makes it to market. We need it!

Wes
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 27, 2008 - 02:58:45 pm
Thank you for the positive feedback :)


(http://www.centerforce.com/images/bg_header.jpg)

The clutch and pressure plate package arrived from Centerforce and it is a work of art!  The Centerforce crew went above and beyond and definitely exceeded our expectations by building a custom clutch package to work with the Challenger's unique drive line setup.  They mocked up the bellhousing and flywheel and Tilton Release Bearing, built a DFX clutch disc to work with the high gear shaft spline, and balanced the LMC pressure plate to the flywheel. 

www.Centerforce.com (http://www.Centerforce.com)


Centerforce 2008 SEMA Press Release



(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2784/centerforceetikitpressrfe7.jpg)


2008 SEMA SHOW
E Tikit Challenger
1970 DODGE CHALLENGER 426 C.I.D. HEMI STROKER
(LMC PRESSURE PLATE AND DFX DISC)

Centerforce® is proud to feature their LMC and DFX series clutch systems on the Bruning Auto Design “E Tikit” Challenger.  Come see the engine and driveline from this twin turbocharged 6.1L HEMI at the Cone Engineering Booth #23475 during the 2008 SEMA Show.  “E Tikit” will be a custom built 1970 Challenger that utilizes a Centerforce 10.5” Light Metal Clutch (LMC) Pressure Plate and DFX Friction Disc. The LMC Pressure Plate features a CAD/CAM designed, aircraft quality, billet aluminum pressure plate that utilizes the Centerforce patented Ball Bearing fulcrum technology.  This system, coupled with the famed Centerforce centrifugal weight system works to increase the Pressure Plate clamping force while maintaining an easy pedal effort. The Centerforce DFX disc is a high friction, sprung hub performance disc that utilizes cerametallic friction material for a smooth engagement and excellent holding capacity. For more information on Centerforce visit www.centerforce.com (http://www.centerforce.com) or call (928) 771-8422. To see the build-up of “E Tikit” please visit: www.etikitchallenger.com (http://www.etikitchallenger.com)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 27, 2008 - 03:26:32 pm
The factory 6.1 HEMI coils are mounted on top of the valve covers and covered by valve cover covers.  Not a huge "cover" fan, plus the turbo headers come up and forward next to the valve covers, so the coils were relocated.

The 8.5 mm spark plug wires are protected with DEI's "Protect-A-Wire" which are made from a high temperature resistant fiberglass composite materialand will withstand 1200*F direct continuous heat.

(http://www.designengineering.com/images/header.jpg)

(http://www.designengineering.com/images/products/Group_Protect_A_Wire300.jpg)

www.designengineering.com

16 plug wires later...

(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6537/1026updates003xd8.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 27, 2008 - 04:14:06 pm
Packaging 8 twin plug coils under the intake was fun...  The coils and plug wires are below the intake flange so that they do not interfere with the fuel rails and injectors.  A lot more clearance with the stock style intake... 

Tim built a tray to hold the coils mounted by stand-offs using the MDS plug mounting tabs. 
(http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6421/1026updates008dq5.jpg)

Coils going in
(http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/5926/1026updates011hh4.jpg)

The ARP stainless hardware from Totally Stainless arrived as well
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4554/1026updates013ou6.jpg)

Aluminum top "cover" that holds the coils in place and plug wires installed

(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2931/1026updates018aw2.jpg)

(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1525/1026updates016to7.jpg)
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Post by: ntstlgl1970 on October 27, 2008 - 04:41:26 pm
That looks cool, are you guys doing anything special to shield the injector harness from ignition secondary EMR/EMI interference? or is the harness pretty well shielded as is.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 27, 2008 - 04:43:22 pm
Received the ball bearing turbos from Precision Turbo on Friday.  Guy at Rockford Racecraft (http://"http://www.rockfordracecraft.com") ceramic coated the center section in hi-temp black and the turbine housings in silver.  Guy also touched up the castings since they were pretty rough before coating

Turbine Housings - before pics

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5254/1014turbinehousings1rt0.jpg)

Touched up, then bead blasted and ready for coating

(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2276/1014turbinehousings2hb6.jpg)

So here are a couple pictures of the finished product (1 of 2) sitting on my not so new line-x covered tailgate...

(http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8084/1026updates019iq3.jpg)

Side view-

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6155/1026updates023da7.jpg)

Close up of the center and turbine housing-

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7306/1026updates024ff4.jpg)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 27, 2008 - 04:47:23 pm
That looks cool, are you guys doing anything special to shield the injector harness from ignition secondary EMR/EMI interference? or is the harness pretty well shielded as is.

Definitely a concern, but we are doing as much as possible to make EMI a non issue.  The injector harness will be covered with a similar shielding as the coils and tucked up high under the intake.  The Coils & coil wiring harness are below the aluminum cover.  Used a quality plug wire and boot and the plug wires do not touch the injectors or harness.
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Post by: ntstlgl1970 on October 27, 2008 - 04:51:13 pm
Ah, ok. So many things have been changed it's hard to keep it all straight. Would be cool to see the rails/injectors and associated hardware when you get it setup.
 :2thumbs:
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on October 27, 2008 - 05:26:51 pm
Few more turbo pics (sorry, been a long time coming!)

(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3990/1026updates020bx8.jpg)

(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9171/1026updates021zc1.jpg)

Finishing up the SEMA display stand

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6938/1026updates026zi9.jpg)

Oil pan contour matches the bellhousing...

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8283/1027update002cf3.jpg)
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Post by: NoMope Greg on October 27, 2008 - 06:14:47 pm
I'm consistently awed at the level of craftmanship in this build.    :drool: :popcorn:  :2thumbs:
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Post by: Young _Gun on October 30, 2008 - 03:33:13 pm
this is ridiculously amazing
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Post by: lemming303 on October 30, 2008 - 04:24:38 pm
Love the engine work! However, and ya'll can hate on me if you want but I really don't like lowered cars. Just my opinion. Yall are doin a good job though.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 01, 2008 - 01:38:53 am
Love the engine work! However, and ya'll can hate on me if you want but I really don't like lowered cars. Just my opinion. Yall are doin a good job though.


To each their own, no worries there...

SEMA update

Engine display ready to go...   We just finished our first set of sheetmetal fabricated aluminum valve covers.  More details to come (billet machined o-ring inner and outer flanges, pictures, etc.)
(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/9805/1031semadisplay028vx9.jpg)

top view from the rear - 1/2" stainless hard lines for the breather tubes and from the Y-block up to the -8 fuel rails
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3598/1031semadisplay009bd2.jpg)

3/4 front - stainless hardline that feed the RC Engineering 71lb/hour fuel injectors...
(http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7799/1031semadisplay027az5.jpg)

Close-up picture of the oil fill and breather line and the fuel line behind it
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2317/1031semadisplay026oy2.jpg)

Heading out first thing in the morning.  Looks like the weather is a bit nicer in Vegas...
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Post by: Lunchbox on November 01, 2008 - 02:39:23 am
Very nice work and talent  :eek2:
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Post by: thedodgeboys on November 01, 2008 - 06:54:19 am
enjoy the trip!

 :drool:
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Post by: MoparCar on November 01, 2008 - 10:15:43 am
Wow!!! I love it! That is very nice!
Wes
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Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on November 01, 2008 - 09:48:13 pm
The work and attention to detail is just outstanding! Really looks awesome! Hopefully you will be attending the next SEMA show ('09) with the car so I can see it in person.  :bigshades:


That is the caliber of work I'd love to be able to do myself, yet I doubt I'll have the tools, machinery or skills to do things close to that. ! I've always wanted a turbo mopar, yet even if I did manage to get something together in my car...I doubt I'd be happy with how it looks. My hopes would be something that looks like your work, however my hands and head just couldn't make it look like that. For now I'll be fixing BMW's, and still keep dreaming of doing projects like that for a living. But at 21, I may just get the chance to someday  :)



 :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy :worshippy

Very nice!!!!
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Post by: lemming303 on November 01, 2008 - 11:28:51 pm
Man that engine is looking better and better. Have you dyno'd it yet?
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Post by: go-fish on November 01, 2008 - 11:41:13 pm
If I were one of the other builders going for SMOTY I would just quit. You guys have it on lock down in my opinion.
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Post by: The Cuda Guy on November 08, 2008 - 04:41:47 pm
Very nice guys!  Im super impressed.  I hope to see it when its complete in person!

Don
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Post by: e-tek on November 09, 2008 - 10:19:49 am
I did this same build one time. :cooldancing:


Oh - that was a dream.  :roflsmiley:
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Post by: Young _Gun on November 09, 2008 - 11:59:45 am
it just keeps getting better and better.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 11, 2008 - 12:05:45 am
Thanks for all the positive feedback guys... SEMA was a blast.  Will post pictures of the display in the next day or two... 
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Post by: BacardiCBR on November 13, 2008 - 01:07:52 am
The car is absolutely breathtaking.  What's the story on it though?  What flew up someone's butt one day (besides money and incredible talent, hehe J/K) that really drove this whole thing?  Passion for Mopar, custom work, power, racing, car shows, investment, statement to the world, need for uniqueness, or... ?  Just curious - what will this car be used for once it's done?  Will it be framed in glass and displayed in a museum, driven on tours, or maybe raced hard on a track (I like that one)?

Like I said - breathtaking - GREAT WORK!  (you must be almost tired of hearing that)
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Post by: Street_Challenged73 on November 13, 2008 - 02:05:34 am
That engine assembly is a masterpiece by itself!!!!!! :drool:  That Challenger is going to be a MONSTER on the streets! :worshippy
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Post by: lemming303 on November 14, 2008 - 08:59:27 pm
Dyno?
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 15, 2008 - 11:26:37 am
Dyno?

no
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Post by: lemming303 on November 16, 2008 - 05:19:50 pm
WHEN!!!! Come on man, the suspense is killing me!
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Post by: Young _Gun on November 17, 2008 - 08:34:05 am
are you guys gonna drop it into a vehicle?
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Post by: the_engineers on November 17, 2008 - 09:46:47 am
are you guys gonna drop it into a vehicle?
You may want to go back and read the rest of the thread.  If you have not seen the Challenger that they're building, you've missed 95% of the build.
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Post by: tyler on November 17, 2008 - 01:03:57 pm
what booth was the motor in at sema?  i was out there, i dont remember seeing it.  although i didn't make it around everywhere.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 17, 2008 - 01:52:13 pm
what booth was the motor in at sema?  i was out there, i dont remember seeing it.  although i didn't make it around everywhere.


Cone Engineering booth (#23475) in Hot Rod Alley.  Good location right on the center isle diagonal to Bilstein & GM and right next Hemming Motor News.

Cone's SEMA gallery which shows the booth and all of the different displays.

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/568681780uwDnIG
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 17, 2008 - 01:57:47 pm
The car is absolutely breathtaking.  What's the story on it though?  What flew up someone's butt one day (besides money and incredible talent, hehe J/K) that really drove this whole thing?  Passion for Mopar, custom work, power, racing, car shows, investment, statement to the world, need for uniqueness, or... ?  Just curious - what will this car be used for once it's done?  Will it be framed in glass and displayed in a museum, driven on tours, or maybe raced hard on a track (I like that one)?

Like I said - breathtaking - GREAT WORK!  (you must be almost tired of hearing that)

This car is a culmination of years of ideas from past builds and the need to build "the one that got away."  The car is owned by my dad, it will make it's way around to different shows, but in the end the car is built to be driven.  My dad worked for a large street rod builder in Portland for about 10 years before we started our own company - Bruning Auto Design.  He started working with C5 suspension components not long after the C5 vette was introduced (google Real Mad designed by Chip Foose and NewMad).

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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 17, 2008 - 02:02:51 pm
You may want to go back and read the rest of the thread.  If you have not seen the Challenger that they're building, you've missed 95% of the build.


correct - lot of pages, but a lot of pictures and info too. 

Young_Gun -All build photos and project details are also on www.etikitchallenger.com .

Here is a picture of the project for reference (with the stock 6.1 HEMI oil pan)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/8444-2/show+_amp_+photo+shoot+001+_33_.JPG)
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Post by: cudadave72 on November 17, 2008 - 05:44:51 pm
Super BADASS!!!! :wow: :droolingbounce: :droolingbounce:
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Post by: Young _Gun on November 17, 2008 - 08:24:38 pm
You may want to go back and read the rest of the thread.  If you have not seen the Challenger that they're building, you've missed 95% of the build.
OH YEA! lol I feel dumb. I did see the pics when they were first posted. Yea, I accidentally the pics.
Not to make excuses, but I have short term memory loss. Which brings up another point - I have short term memory loss.
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 17, 2008 - 08:49:56 pm
WHEN!!!! Come on man, the suspense is killing me!

Still waiting on the camshaft (long story).  Water pump in the works along with engine management.  Car probably won't be dyno'd until the car is tuned
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 17, 2008 - 08:56:28 pm
Some pictures from the SEMA show  in Cone Engineering's booth.

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/10279-2/SEMA+2008+004.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/10282-2/SEMA+2008+006.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/10285-2/SEMA+2008+007.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/10288-2/SEMA+2008+008.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/v/Events/2008+Sema/SEMA+2008+009.JPG.html)
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Post by: Young _Gun on November 17, 2008 - 08:57:57 pm
I just creamed my jeans
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 17, 2008 - 09:07:53 pm
more

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: lemming303 on November 17, 2008 - 11:11:21 pm
Oh. I thought it was completely finished, ready to fire up. I'll be watchin!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: tyler on November 18, 2008 - 05:51:37 am
are you bringing the car there next year?  great work, makes me jealous!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on November 18, 2008 - 09:23:04 pm
The front on shot of the engine looks like Johnny 5. (No dis-assemble Johnny 5!)

Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 24, 2008 - 06:24:51 pm
Hot Rod Magazine - January 2009 - "Tubular Challenger"

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: IMNCARN82 on November 25, 2008 - 09:48:43 am
You should see the look on my friends faces when i show them your car.  I call it "The greatest Challenger ever built"
  JMHO.   :bigsmile:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on November 25, 2008 - 10:02:11 pm
You should see the look on my friends faces when i show them your car.  I call it "The greatest Challenger ever built"
  JMHO.   :bigsmile:

:)  Thanks!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: lemming303 on November 25, 2008 - 11:15:28 pm
That's awesome dude! Congrats!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: TKat13 on November 26, 2008 - 03:27:24 am
I purchased that Mag the other night... then I was like .... hey! I know that car!!!

Congrats, great work btw. I've been quietly monitoring your progress. :)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on December 01, 2008 - 02:06:33 am
Congrats on the nice article in Hot Rod!! :cheers:  It's a well-deserved "award" for all the work that's gone/going into that build! :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 01, 2008 - 05:51:04 pm
Thanks guys!

Parts update - We're gluttons for trick billet machined parts and the Pure Power lifetime remote oil filter with bypass and block off plate adapter are definitely trick!

(http://www.gopurepower.com/site/images/pure-power-incorporated.jpg)

www.gopurepower.com (http://www.gopurepower.com)

Image of the 8900-R filter from Pure Power's site
(http://www.gopurepower.com/site/products/hr-images/hr-filter-8600-8900-02.jpg)

Filter highlights:
-American made 6061 T6 forged billet housing w/Viton O-Rings
-Environmentally friendly - cleanable & reusable
-100% filtration through (no bypass) T 304 stainless steel media in addition to increased flow rate
-Cooler operating temperatures and easy engine monitoring
-Only cleanable oil filter to pass F.A.A testing and used in most major racing venues (land, sea, and air)

Few more pictures
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/11899-2/12-1+pure+power.JPG)
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: lemming303 on December 01, 2008 - 10:00:01 pm
Interesting. It filters all the oil? How little restriction does it have?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Topcat on December 01, 2008 - 10:05:56 pm
Yup, I got the issue and saw your car in there too.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on December 02, 2008 - 11:28:21 am
Interesting. It filters all the oil? How little restriction does it have?

Up to 90% improvement in particulate removal with increased flow over paper/cellulose filters (lab tested 20+ gpm).  I like that you can inspect the filter (oil analysis) between changes.  Same concept as over-the-road semi's, etc.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: tyler on December 14, 2008 - 01:25:13 am
That filter looks really nice.  I'll have to keep that in mind.  do you know roughly the limit to how far away the filter can be away from the motor?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: TKat13 on December 17, 2008 - 01:41:25 am
Up to 90% improvement in particulate removal with increased flow over paper/cellulose filters (lab tested 20+ gpm).  I like that you can inspect the filter (oil analysis) between changes.  Same concept as over-the-road semi's, etc.

I have a very similar design on my Buell XB12R, much smaller however. They are not cheap but as mentioned it is great to inspect what is being filtered.  I like it so much that I was wanting one for my truck. I'd at least recommend it for my Buell, so I can only think that our motors would love them too.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on January 19, 2009 - 06:36:03 pm
Quick update -

Big thanks to Meziere Enterprises for their support. 

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http://www.meziere.com (http://www.meziere.com)

Here is Meziere's new high flow new generation 6.1L HEMI race water pump housing.  The production version will utilize a block off plate with upper radiator hose outlet (we're already running a front motor plate). 

A bolt-on version that works with factory accessories is also in the works.

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on February 08, 2009 - 04:53:34 pm
Any updates?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 05:01:09 pm
Few updates-

On to the accessory drive - or lack there of.  Space is at a premium, so each component has a small window for fitment.  The other challenge was fabricating brackets that allow for pump removal without disassembling half the car. 

The brackets for the A/C pump are removable on the top and bottom so that the pump can be removed without pulling the engine and or removing the oil lines from the block off adapter.

upper bracket
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Looking up from beneath the car
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Lower A/C bracket
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pump installed
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another shot from the below
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 05:02:57 pm
A Few overdue updates -

A friend of mine (who happens to be a professional off road photographer) stopped by a few weeks ago and snapped some pics...

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More on our website, www.bruningautodesign.com (http://www.bruningautodesign.com) or check out Brandon's photobucket gallery. 

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/Bruning (http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/powdr7/Bruning) Auto Design/
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 05:15:20 pm
The Ididit steering column arrived last week - very impressed with the build quality, fit, and finish. 

Ididit built a custom aluminum tilt column for the Challenger but retained some of the Mopar styling cues - such as the column adapter.  Went with a brushed aluminum finish with clear powder coat.  Ididit also sent us their column drop bracket, floor mount, and Borgeson u-joint.

www.ididit.com 

E-body specific column -
http://www.ididitinc.com/retrofit_columns/70_74_cuda-challenger_fs.html

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firewall mount is only temporary
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Precision bearing (no plastic sleeve here) with 1" splined shaft
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 05:26:17 pm
Diagonal floor bracing added (1")

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Tim also machined mounting brackets for the seats. 

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The sales rep at Sparco told me the seat tracks wouldn't work without using their OEM specific seat mounts... guess he was wrong.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 05:31:42 pm
The first production Meziere electric late model hemi water pump also arrived.

Contact Meziere for additional information

www.meziere.com

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: lemming303 on February 23, 2009 - 06:21:16 pm
Damn that thing is looking good. I can't wait to see it finished
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: go-fish on February 23, 2009 - 06:52:50 pm
Keep it up. Hopefully Oregon will let you drive it on the roads up there. It sounds like they are getting strict with cars.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on February 23, 2009 - 10:23:46 pm
Nice updates. Will you have it done for the SMOTY awards?
Question on the Ididit column-Did you just remove the key? All the direct fit e-body columns listed include the clunky looking key at the 5 o'clock position. They told me they don't make one for e-bodies without the key since that is the only way they were OEM. I'm assuming the brushed aluminum is not a stock finish (not listed from what I see?)

Thanks-what an awesome project!!!
Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 10:57:00 pm
Nice updates. Will you have it done for the SMOTY awards?
Question on the Ididit column-Did you just remove the key? All the direct fit e-body columns listed include the clunky looking key at the 5 o'clock position. They told me they don't make one for e-bodies without the key since that is the only way they were OEM. I'm assuming the brushed aluminum is not a stock finish (not listed from what I see?)

Thanks-what an awesome project!!!
Wes

Regarding SMOTY - a lot of things left to do and not enough time - this build takes second priority to customer cars.

The Ididit column is a one-off custom column.  The standard e-body column wouldn't have worked on this project as an off the shelf unit.  The firewall is set back 4", the column is offset towards the driver's side 7/8", different firewall mount, etc.  We wanted to maintain a bit of the MOPAR looks, so Ididit integrated their Mopar specific steering wheel adapter into the mix.

I talked with Marty at Ididit quiet a bit about the key and they are working on an alternative option for the guys/gals who want to do a push button start, etc.  I would give them a call.  Ididit went above and beyond the call of duty and will definitely work with you. 

There are some vendors who make a killer product, but they lack in the customer service department.  Then there are similar companies (BAER, IDIDIT, etc) who also make top quality parts, but they back it up with exceptional customer service.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 23, 2009 - 10:59:36 pm
Keep it up. Hopefully Oregon will let you drive it on the roads up there. It sounds like they are getting strict with cars.

I read about the tire height deal on another forum, but haven't heard anything on the local news about it.  I'm glad we're on the Washington side (for many reasons).  A customer of ours is a cop in Oregon, I'll have to ask him about it. 
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 71bigblock on February 24, 2009 - 10:26:37 am
Wow, excellent stuff, as usual.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: hezzel on February 24, 2009 - 01:30:38 pm
 :iagree: :2thumbs:

/hezzel
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on February 24, 2009 - 07:52:56 pm

The Ididit column is a one-off custom column.  The standard e-body column wouldn't have worked on this project as an off the shelf unit.  The firewall is set back 4", the column is offset towards the driver's side 7/8", different firewall mount, etc.  We wanted to maintain a bit of the MOPAR looks, so Ididit integrated their Mopar specific steering wheel adapter into the mix.

I talked with Marty at Ididit quiet a bit about the key and they are working on an alternative option for the guys/gals who want to do a push button start, etc.  I would give them a call.  Ididit went above and beyond the call of duty and will definitely work with you. 

There are some vendors who make a killer product, but they lack in the customer service department.  Then there are similar companies (BAER, IDIDIT, etc) who also make top quality parts, but they back it up with exceptional customer service.

Thanks-the column looks awesome!
Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: tyler on February 25, 2009 - 03:20:43 am
looks great, as expected  :)   are you guys going to detroit next weekend?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 26, 2009 - 03:56:28 pm
Thanks guys...  Travis - no go on Detroit this year, getting ready for a local show next weekend.

I posted pictures of the seat brackets, but not the seats...

Sparco Modena's

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The rack servo is mounted

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on February 26, 2009 - 04:02:28 pm
Also machined/fabricated a mounting bracket for the KRC power steering pump.

Parts sure look better without tape :)
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P/S bracket matches the hot rod air a/c pump bracket
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/24705-2/2-26-09+updates+020.JPG)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bearcuda on February 26, 2009 - 10:35:22 pm
That car's junk.....


















Just kidding, flippin ridiculous and crazy workmanship.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 02, 2009 - 10:30:35 pm
That car's junk.....
Just kidding, flippin ridiculous and crazy workmanship.  :2thumbs:


It's a freakin' money pit!!!

Intake plumbing from the invisible intercooler's to the throttle bodies...

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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bearcuda on March 04, 2009 - 09:46:33 pm
That's gonna be the sickest Chally ever, money pit or not.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on March 04, 2009 - 11:13:34 pm
My favorite e-body build ever. Can't wait to see it complete with time slips.....

Your craftmanship is top notch! It inspires me. Talent. Wish I had the time and talent.
Wes
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 10, 2009 - 08:06:55 pm

Few pictures from the Portland Roadster Show last weekend...

Lots of lookers
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First set of Bruning Auto Design 5.7 & 6.1L new gen HEMI billet valve covers installed...
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27544-2/2009+Portland+Roadster+Show+023.JPG)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: conv340 on March 13, 2009 - 03:18:52 pm
It sure looks sweet in steel. It's gotta help pick up new clients.
Quote
It's a freakin' money pit!!!
I hear that, and if your like me its an addiction. Its not like you can just stop!  :grinno: Got and kids you can sell?  :lol:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: somedaysoon on March 13, 2009 - 04:46:37 pm
 Looks great, I wish I would have had that kind of room in my engine bay.  Pete
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 13, 2009 - 05:10:14 pm
Looks great, I wish I would have had that kind of room in my engine bay.  Pete


Room?  Not much there...  The 6.1 hemi in a customer's barracuda looks puny in comparison.  The engine is set back, but we lost a lot of vertical space with the chassis built at a very low ride height.  No room for turbo's above the wheels like you typically see on 1st gen camaro TT builds, etc.  The upper control arms are next to the top of the heads.

To put it in perspective, look how close the tire is to the top of the fender (which hasn't been addressed yet).  Stock hinges are only temporary since they will hit the tire during normal suspension travel.

(http://www.bacdesigns.biz/ts/images/coverage/PDX_Roadster09/images/Portland%20Roadster%20Show146.jpg)
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pictures courtesy of www.thatssiiick.com
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 13, 2009 - 05:12:42 pm
It sure looks sweet in steel. It's gotta help pick up new clients. I hear that, and if your like me its an addiction. Its not like you can just stop!  :grinno: Got and kids you can sell?  :lol:

More of a sickness than an addiction, lol... 
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: somedaysoon on March 13, 2009 - 05:24:26 pm
 In the picture a few posts above where you're referring to the valve covers it looks fairly spacious, but now looking at those it's fairly tight. If my downpipes weren't blued you'd see how tight I really am. I still have to figure out an intercooler and plumb it. I wish I had the welding skills you guys have, your welding and fab work is top notch. Oh and it does look like a money pit, but that isn't meant as an insult, it just looks time consuming and time is money.  Pete
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 13, 2009 - 05:38:47 pm
nice work - definitely tight for you too... Must have something to do with the adding a couple turbos and a bunch of plumbing.   :money:

We're in the process of mounting the radiator which will require a custom hood latch, etc.  Intercoolers are going to be a tight fit too.  The fun never ends.   :smokin:


In the picture a few posts above where you're referring to the valve covers it looks fairly spacious, but now looking at those it's fairly tight. If my downpipes weren't blued you'd see how tight I really am. I still have to figure out an intercooler and plumb it. I wish I had the welding skills you guys have, your welding and fab work is top notch. Oh and it does look like a money pit, but that isn't meant as an insult, it just looks time consuming and time is money.  Pete
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: somedaysoon on March 13, 2009 - 07:04:44 pm
 Are you doing air to air, and obviously the front only has room for rad so are they going in the
fenders. Will they be large enough or will you do a little meth inj. This is what I'm considering because of space constraints. Don't know that I want to do air to water.  I'd really like to know what you're considering, your knowledge base far exceeds mine and it might help with my decision.  Pete
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 13, 2009 - 08:55:13 pm
Looking at air to air - but modifying the fenders and front valance a bit with two side mount.  Should be able to support enough HP with the core sizes, but sufficient ducting to the intercoolers will be key.  Tossed around the idea of going air to water a few times, but there are a lot of challenges to going that route also (no pun intended).

Looks like you could possible fit an air to air in front of the rad if you modified the hood support?  Plumbing will be fun regardless.

Are you doing air to air, and obviously the front only has room for rad so are they going in the
fenders. Will they be large enough or will you do a little meth inj. This is what I'm considering because of space constraints. Don't know that I want to do air to water.  I'd really like to know what you're considering, your knowledge base far exceeds mine and it might help with my decision.  Pete
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Post by: 472 R/T SE on March 20, 2009 - 07:16:06 pm
While a good portion of the Roadster Show participants were shining on their rides with towels, etc., you folks were using a DA.  If you think about it, it was quite comical.

Never got to talk to you guys' as there was always someone talking to ya'. 

Just as unreal in person as on a monitor.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 20, 2009 - 08:27:04 pm
too funny!  We weren't quiet either!!! 

Move in was hell.  Nothing like getting stuck in the rain with a bare metal car...  What a nightmare.  Add a $70 parking ticket (for waiting in line) and my day was complete. 

See you at the next show - make sure you stop by and say hi. 

While a good portion of the Roadster Show participants were shining on their rides with towels, etc., you folks were using a DA.  If you think about it, it was quite comical.

Never got to talk to you guys' as there was always someone talking to ya'. 

Just as unreal in person as on a monitor.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 472 R/T SE on March 21, 2009 - 12:23:32 am
Supposedly some phone calls were made and all those chicken **** tickets were suppose to bee voided.  I'd call Multnomah Hot Rod Council and talk to Don Van Dinter 503-232-4567.  He's in charge and when we spoke with him he told us about it.

Move in was easy as pie for me, no rain and drove right in.  Of course that was 7pm.
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Post by: elitecustombody on March 21, 2009 - 12:39:16 am
why don't you guys just shoot one coat of over reduced clear to stop flash rust? or keep sanding and using scotch pads and sandpaper to shine it up, it does look pretty cool in bare metal,but at some point you'll have to get some paint on it
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 21, 2009 - 02:47:31 am
why don't you guys just shoot one coat of over reduced clear to stop flash rust? or keep sanding and using scotch pads and sandpaper to shine it up, it does look pretty cool in bare metal,but at some point you'll have to get some paint on it

The car has been bare metal for a year now - flash rust hasn't been an issue.  Getting caught in the rain, however, left a weird hue.  Like I said, that was a crappy day. 

We fully intend to paint the car, but decided to bring it to display in our vendor booth at a couple shows this month. There's a lot more metalwork to be done, so no sense in hiding what we do just yet...
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Post by: elitecustombody on March 21, 2009 - 09:37:54 am
I'm just wondering how you guys keep the flash rust from forming? keeping it in a climate controlled room? I'm working on 55 356 Speedster that has been blasted about a month ago and I started seeing the rust,I do keep it covered,but humidity will still find a way   
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Post by: 71bigblock on March 21, 2009 - 09:41:25 am
I blasted a hood I had, let it sit inside the shed door for a long time, about a year, and it was still pretty clean.  The only places where it was rusting decently was where water had dripped on it. 

But there's gotta be rust you cant see covering the entire thing.   :dunno:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: ChallengerGary on March 21, 2009 - 10:31:56 am
 :wow: I am speechless
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 21, 2009 - 06:23:56 pm
No surface rust.

For starters - a blasted surface is very porous, the metal finished body of the Challenger is not.  The body is very smooth which you can see in the pictures (sheen).  We spent a couple hours going over the car with a scotch brite pad before the show to remove finger prints from the last show in March 08.  Move in was hell, got caught in the rain, and ended up going over it again at the show.

Also - We get a lot of rain (Pacific Northwest), but it's not humid here.  Our shop is also heated and well insulated - stays very dry.  The car was on the frame fixture, uncovered, for many months. 

Regardless - the chassis and inner body stucture will be powder coated, and the exterior will go through the proper steps for paint.

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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 23, 2009 - 06:56:19 pm
A Few updates...

A big step for Bruning Auto Design - our new 5.7 and 6.1L late model HEMI Billet valve covers.

What started off as an idea has now turned into a reality.  Each valve cover is machined from a 33.5 lb Billet of Aircraft grade 6061 T-6 AMS QQ-A-250/11 Aluminum.  State of the art “High Speed” CNC Machining centers insure the final 5 lb valve cover is kept to close tolerances of the custom CAD designed 3-D model.

A few pictures of the "2BC" and "Classic" production covers...

"2BC" (no logo engraved on the production cover, but it is an option).  The top profile is smooth machined and is easily polished, plated or painted for a custom finished finish by the customer.
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/22784-2/_DSC5456.jpg)

"Classic"version has a touch of classic style with a 3 inch band of ball milled ribbed surface down the center
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27656-2/Bruning+-+Billet+New+HEMI+valve+cover+-+Classic+series.jpg)
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27659-2/Bruning+-+Billet+New+HEMI+valve+cover+-+Classic+series+2.jpg)

We're playing with different tool path options for the Challenger
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27668-2/3-16-09+pics+006.JPG)
(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27677-2/3-19-09+updates+004.JPG)
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Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 23, 2009 - 07:14:04 pm
Also "modified" and mounted the radiator. A cover will be shaped that flows up from the grill, over the radiator and stock core support and blend into the intake tubing.

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27680-2/3-19-09+updates+005.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27683-2/3-19-09+updates+007.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27686-2/3-23-09+updates+002.JPG)

The hood was also modified to clear the radiator and the stock latch and inner structure were removed.  A 1" piece of DOM tubing with a large rolled arc adds strength and also ties into the round tubing used for the chassis.

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27692-2/3-23-09+updates+001.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27695-2/3-23-09+chally+hood+001.JPG)

(http://www.garagescene.net/gallery2/d/27701-2/3-23-09+chally+hood+004.JPG)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: thedodgeboys on March 23, 2009 - 08:32:25 pm
 :wow: :wow: :wow: I love the covers  :droolingbounce:  :droolingbounce: :droolingbounce:


Great update  :drool:

 
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on March 23, 2009 - 09:19:31 pm
Those valve covers are awesome! Will you have those available on your website or?
Wes
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Post by: 71bigblock on March 23, 2009 - 09:25:46 pm
Ohhhhhh, those covers.....     :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: farmertan on March 23, 2009 - 11:47:21 pm
 :iagree: can you resist the temptation steve?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Stacked440 on March 24, 2009 - 11:13:49 pm
Those valve covers are awesome!!  custom one offs or in "production"? :drool:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bruning Auto Design on March 25, 2009 - 01:51:22 am
Those valve covers are awesome!!  custom one offs or in "production"? :drool:

Production...   :smokin:

email sent
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: lemming303 on June 14, 2009 - 12:04:15 am
How much longer til the Dyno?
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Post by: IMNCARN82 on June 16, 2009 - 06:51:00 pm
WoW!!!   those r cooool.  The car is getting there now t.j.   You are gonna' have to paint it sometime...    ::)    I like the metal too.Just clear it.     :icon16:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on August 30, 2009 - 01:58:45 pm
Any updates?
Wes
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Post by: MoparCar on August 30, 2009 - 07:44:46 pm
Why has this build moved to Classics from restoration/projects? Do the pictures remain in Classics or?
Thanks, Wes

Just wondering.....
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: dutch on November 13, 2009 - 05:13:21 am
so,  how`s the challenger doing?    :popcorn:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MoparCar on July 06, 2010 - 10:56:35 pm
Is this project still alive? Bruning's website seems to be non-existent anymore. ????
Wes
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Post by: brads70 on December 30, 2010 - 12:20:00 pm
 :popcorn:  Anything new?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: dutch on December 30, 2010 - 01:44:03 pm
I hope he didn`t go down in this crisis. That must have been bad timing in a project like that... loved it too  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Topcat on December 30, 2010 - 08:36:49 pm
I've been wondering myself what's happened since the last progress.
Could show up at SEMA 11' all finished and he's keeping it under wraps.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: walkAbout on February 03, 2012 - 03:46:47 pm
Oh, what a bad end here on the bad Challenger. I've read all from the beginning till here and was hoping to see the car in action. Searched the net, but nothing on YT or the websites. I'm a bit disappointed now. Hopefully the engine ran one day and the builders are still up and in business.

CU
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: RB2929 on February 03, 2012 - 06:05:59 pm
Just read all 25 pages - downloaded a bunch of pics.
That Chally is something remarkable and a technical wonder.  I love the engine and all the "homemade" components.

So, after some 5 years, it’s over?  Hope not.
Anyone here personally know the builders? Their Email, phone number, etc?
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 06Daytona on February 04, 2012 - 07:48:02 am
I googled their site last night and there haven't been any updates there since 2009 either. I hope the project is still going and they're just having computer problems that are keeping them from posting updates.
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Post by: NoMope Greg on February 04, 2012 - 04:31:43 pm
I googled their site last night and there haven't been any updates there since 2009 either. I hope the project is still going and they're just having computer problems that are keeping them from posting updates.

If they haven't posted any updates in over two years, there's a lot more than computer problems going on.  :violin:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: walkAbout on February 04, 2012 - 04:44:46 pm
Sure, it is really strange. He posted so much and then suddenly stopped. Last activity here was ~2 years. Anyway, usually he should get mails about updates to this thread. My guess now is, that something happend to the car. To sad. Maybe one day we know...

CU
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Chryco Psycho on February 17, 2012 - 10:18:51 pm
He is or was very Near Cody in Vancouver area . we are 1 month away from 3 years to the last post , the project was awesome with all the creativity but the budget must have been over the top  , the craftsmanship was over the top as well .
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: HP2 on February 19, 2012 - 12:28:44 pm
I seem to recall reading some where that they closed up shop and were not doing any more work. I can't recall where I saw that though.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Topcat on February 19, 2012 - 01:01:20 pm
Is this project still alive? Bruning's website seems to be non-existent anymore. ????
Wes


http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/BruningAutoDesign/vehicles/4434
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 'Cuda Hunter on February 19, 2012 - 03:03:50 pm
That car is rockin!!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: brads70 on April 23, 2012 - 05:33:29 pm
Updates?  :drool:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: 06Daytona on April 23, 2012 - 06:11:41 pm
I've been searching around for anything new, but all I can come up with is from 08. It might just be poor googling on my part but it looks like it may be on hiatus.
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Post by: bigblue73 on June 25, 2012 - 01:27:30 pm
They are still there - Doing very high end builds.  As far as the status of the Challenger, I have no idea.  With the way things are I bet he had to focus on the builds and less on the internet.  Cris is a metal master.  Check out this build for Ned Jackson.  It's cool.  http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=17432&page=41 (http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=17432&page=41)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: MizzouRT on November 23, 2012 - 09:29:01 pm
Over at Modern Mopar Forum, they are reporting that the owner of this build has passed away, which would explain why no additional posts on the build.

http://modernmoparforum.com/topic/7930-bad-to-da-bone-challenger-build/ (http://modernmoparforum.com/topic/7930-bad-to-da-bone-challenger-build/)
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Tonker1 on November 24, 2012 - 07:21:45 am
This is the first time I've read this tread. I've literately been sitting at my computer for the last hour reading it and flicking back and forth through the awesome pictures. I was actually devastated when the updates stopped on page 25....

That's a shame about the owner.

Cool link bigblue73.
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Post by: dutch on November 24, 2012 - 07:37:58 am
that is some sad news for sure...  :walkaway:    I bet he`s up there on his cloud being pi$$ed he was not able to finish this awesome project  . I do hope someone does. ( can`t read the link btw...)

R.I.P.  :angelwings:
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: walkAbout on November 24, 2012 - 03:18:37 pm
Bad news for sure.  RIP, although the posted link above can only be read if you register on the site...

CU
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Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: pdsbartech on January 07, 2013 - 10:53:32 am
This is the first I am reading this thread too. And I was hoping by the time I got to page 26, it would be pictures of it completed. That sucks!
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Bearcuda on February 16, 2013 - 09:35:26 pm
Wow, that DOES suck. I checked this thread now and then for an update. So sad.
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: Topcat on February 18, 2013 - 01:05:16 am
Someone out there knows something on the whereabouts and situation on this car.
Perhaps now a family settlement issue?
What to do with it?

His last vision knowing his time was coming up?

This car will re-surface.
Who or where will yet to remain the mystery for now.
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Post by: ShelbyDogg on December 14, 2014 - 10:23:06 am
Wow, really?........
Title: Re: BAD Challenger - twin turbo 426 Hemi stroker, tube chassis, 6 speed, etc....
Post by: johns cuda shop on June 12, 2015 - 04:04:26 pm
A long standing member on Lateral-g .net who knows him , posted that he still has the car and is too busy to work on it?     http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=11358&page=43 (http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=11358&page=43) 
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Post by: Mpdlawdog on June 12, 2015 - 07:49:34 pm
A long standing member on Lateral-g .net who knows him , posted that he still has the car and is too busy to work on it?     [url]http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=11358&page=43[/url] ([url]http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=11358&page=43[/url])



Love to see the pics of this build!  One thing I hate about this site is that you can't see the older pics!