Author Topic: Attn: Final parts list! Updated 6/26/14  (Read 9546 times)

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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2014 - 11:17:01 pm »
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It's all good. I know your heart is in the right place.
The clip is pictured on an earlier post on the thread.
Most parts are Mopar Specific. Most parts can be purchased through (MoparDave) at RosevilleMoparts.com.
I don't know the pitch and thread count on the water pump.- it's a 440, that's all I know.
The wheel studs- we only have a 1&1/4" stud, which is not nearly enough. I'd say 1&3/4 to 2" to be safe. Again, I'm not familiar with pitch and thread count. It's all Mopar specific.
Accelerator linkage- I think we could get that thru summit. Edelbrock 600cfm 4bb carb.
The u- joint should be pretty standard. I only dealt with getting one once, so someone else will have to chime in.
The trans dipstick and tube can be purchased as a set- again we could buy a specific one thru Roseville. All 727s are essentially the same for car applications. Don't know about trucks tho.
I'm picking up the hoses.


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No worries Dan. Anything I can do to help.  :thumbsup:
 Blown motor said his trans guy is going to donate a dipstick and tube. So unless I hear that that's a no-go, I'll let it go.
I'll look back at the thread and see what that steering clip is.
 I spoke with a guy at a Chrysler dealer close to me that is, supposedly, an old 440 guru and he told me that the water pump bolts are 3/8" x 18.


Water pump bolts are 3/8 coarse but length will vary with housing thickness & accessories to bolt on with the water pump
 Wheel studs are 1/2" fine thread but the knurl diameter is important , front or rear ? , why are they needed , I though it had regular ralley wheels on it ?
 Some one has to measure the drive shaft & or pinion yolk sizes to see if they are the small or large size , there is also a conversion joint if the sizes are different between the 2
I've been doing some searching on the interwebz and it seems that the water inlet/outlet bolts are just that, bolts. Not bolts with a stud sticking out and the 4 water pump bolts are really short. Although, depending on what pulley setup is going to go on it, it may be better to get low profile allen head type bolts as opposed to your regular 6 point bolts (just for the 4 water pump mounting bolts).

 I'll look for my vernier caliper and measure the yoke and driveshaft to get the u-joint size down.

 
Just thinking.... a torque strap might be a good idea too. That engine is going to be a torque monster!

Neil, longer studs are needed as the rims are hitting the springs. We had to temporarily put washers behind the rims. It has rally rims but they look to be custom/wider with 295 rims ?  It was said it's a B-Body rear end and has the offset shackles and hangers. From what I remember your going to need about a 3/8" spacer on the passenger side and 1/4" on the drivers?
Driveshaft safety loop may not be a bad idea either.

 Would you happen to know what the model numbers of the axle that is supposed to be in there and what's actually in there are? I'd rather find a solution that doesn't incorporate wheel spacers and extended studs. Wheel spacers are a band-aid solution, at best, in my opinion. It changes the load on the axle bearings and can cause issues.
 As for 295 rims, did you mean tires? i.e 295/50/15? (Not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just a stickler for details)
Hahahaha.. Thanks Dodj. You are correct. I forgot. He has a box with an old carb in it that looked like an Edelbrock package.


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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2014 - 06:03:55 am »
Yes with 295 I meant tires. B-Body rear ends are a popular swap and gives you room to add wider rubber with stock backspacing..... usually?  I didn't measure the backspacing on the rims( or the rear end itself?), that might be a good idea?  I just installed 295 rubber on my car with a b-body (and offset shackles etc..) rear end with no issues. I used 5.5" backspacing.  I suspect the rims Andy had were custom made?  :dunno:
Just thinking.... I don't think it's possible to do but maybe look and see if the offsets are going the right way? Someone may have cut off and welded on the mounts going in the wrong offset?  Or maybe he has the wrong year b-body rear end housing?
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/axle/17.html
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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2014 - 07:43:24 am »
I just need to spend more time out there assessing the situation. I think we were all to  busy assembling everything to take note of the finite issues.
I'll try to touch base with Doug and see if he has some time to wrench this weekend.


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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2014 - 07:55:36 am »
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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2014 - 09:01:11 am »
  I suspect the rims Andy had were custom made?  :dunno:

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/axle/17.html


When I was at Andy's in Oct the rims were sitting in the living room. He had just got them a day or two before. Someone donated them and I'm not certain but I think they came from Summit. I don't recall seeing a box the weekend of the build party. Likely the boxes went to the tire shop. If they still had them you could likely get offset info off the box. Just a thought.
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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2014 - 09:36:37 pm »
Just curious Dan, did those carb studs and return spring setup arrive at Cathy's house from Summit? Ian

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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2014 - 10:06:41 pm »
Another thing the car needed was 2 more tranny crossmember bolts unless 2 more were found? :dunno:
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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2014 - 02:29:10 pm »
The back rims on Andy's car have 5.5 inches of back spacing.  He returned the rims with 5 inch back spacing back.  Maybe you could call summit and see if they could rereturn and get the exact rims you need???


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Re: Attn: Final parts list!
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2014 - 09:54:02 am »
What about oil, I have a an extra case in the garage and may be able to locate some extra auto transmission fluid if its needed.

I know we are good on oil. He has a case hanging around. Again, I'll pop out and look around to confirm.

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Re: Attn: Final parts list! Updated 6/26/14
« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2014 - 09:52:24 am »
Did the oil pump arrive ?

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Re: Attn: Final parts list! Updated 6/26/14
« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2014 - 02:40:33 pm »
Any updates being 1 week away ?

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Re: Attn: Final parts list! Updated 6/26/14
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2014 - 09:48:25 pm »
I'll call Cathy tomorrow to verify. I haven't been able get out there due to my own family "issues". In other great news.. My back went out again... I'm batting 1000 this summer, I swear.


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Re: Attn: Final parts list! Updated 6/26/14
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2014 - 11:03:05 pm »
I understand your issues as well .

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