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Title: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 06, 2005 - 09:14:11 pm
Hello folks.  I'm new here.  I'm 18 and go to college in Golden, CO at the Colorado School of Mines.  So enough about me.  My girlfriend's parents have restored a 1939 Chevrolet Street Rod.  I went to a crap ton of shows with them and my love of Mopar has grown beyond control.  I saw Chargers, Challengers, and of course, my favorites, Cudas.  I've even seen a 1970 Hemicuda which put me in heaven.  I kept going off to my girlfriend's father about how I loved Mopar.  Welll... he informed me of a Barracuda that was under a tarp, some hay bales, etc. in a farmers field.  I about cried when I heard of such a Mopar rotting away in a field.  Well, after some negotiation, I purchased the car.  Well, the girlfriend's parents bought it and I bought it from them.  They bought it because they know the guy so they could get a better deal out of him.  Here it is, folks, in all its glory.

(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/1451/1966cudarear8zk.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/3264/1966cudainterior1pp.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/3319/1966cudafrontright1ql.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/2220/1966cudafrontleft3ch.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

(http://img74.exs.cx/img74/8250/1966cudadash5qn.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

Okay, don't blame me for crappy pictures, the girlfriend took it.  When I go back home (in Nebraska) I'll get better pictures.  The restoration starts this summer with an all new interior.  Now, it has a 383 in it but it has mice living in it, it has sat out in the elements for God knows how long, etc.  I was wondering if I should just fix up the 383, build an all new 440, fix the 383 and eventually drop in something larger, or what.  I want to do a stroked 440, but I want input from real Mopar muscle enthusiasts.  I hardly run into any of those around here.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on April 06, 2005 - 09:19:34 pm
Welcome aboard!!!  Man yet another young gun to join our posse. :laughing:  That looks like a solid project for sure.  You should check out B*tch N Blue's '69 notchback he's building.  It's pretty sweet!!! :drool:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 06, 2005 - 09:24:11 pm
Yeah, I'm planning on doing this restoration over the course of a few years.  I just signed a lease for housing next year, I have to save up for college expenses, and I live on my own in the summer anyway.  So the first thing I'm shooting for is just fixing up some of the interior this summer.  I noticed Laysons.com has some nice parts.  i could not believe the price of door panels.  Thanks for the warm welcome.  I'm glad to finally find a site dedicated to my dream cars. :D
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Rev-It-Up on April 06, 2005 - 09:26:41 pm
Welcome to the board 67 Cuda!  Nice barn find! And, it's always great to see these cars being brought back to life.  If it was me, I'd just rebuild the 383 since you already have it.  

I hope you stick around and keep posting cause we love to see the before, during and after pics!  
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Btch n Blue on April 06, 2005 - 09:38:40 pm
Welcome aboard... let me off you some advice from a fellow youngin' who's resto-modifying a '69 notchback...

Here's what you've got there... that's a '67 Formula S 383 Notchback... most likely power steering, I noticed a high end steering wheel, possibly power drum brakes (10" would be my guess with a big block), bucket seats (SWEET!) and what almost looks to be a solid body! Great find! :thumbs:

Feel free to check out my website (http://mikescuda.net/pictures.html) - tons up there from my 3 years resto - which is almost finished (but are they really?!)...

Stick around, ask questions, and enjoy yourself... oh, post more pics...we're pic whores here!! :grinyes:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 06, 2005 - 10:13:33 pm
Holy cow, now that's what I was hoping to find.  Thank you so much, man.  You told me a lot more about the car that I didn't know about!  Well... I'm even more pumped about fixing this puppy up!! Extremely beautiful 'Cuda by the way.  I'll try and be on as often as I can.  In the summer I work at a local college and work on the farm on the weekend.  The house I stay at does not have internet or cable or phone (I have a cell phone, phew).  So I will try to get on the girlfriend's puter often to keep you guys informed.  Thanks so much for the info!  I knew I could trust some other Mopar nuts for help!  Thanks for the welcome everyone.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Btch n Blue on April 06, 2005 - 10:18:38 pm
No problem... feel free to shoot me an email anytime (it's in my profile!)... if you can get us either the VIN number off the upper part of your dash on the driver's side or your fender tag numbers (driver's side as well under the hood on the inner engine bay fender), we call tell you a LOT more about your car!!! :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 06, 2005 - 10:21:56 pm
As soon as I get home next weekend I'll get those.  This weekend I'm not headed back because it's E-Days!!  That guy has no idea of what kind of 'Cuda he has sitting there. :-X
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Topcat on April 06, 2005 - 10:24:06 pm
Quick question. Is that an original 383 in it?
BTW, welcome aboard also.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 74chall on April 06, 2005 - 10:37:16 pm
HOLY COW!!! 67 FORMULA S with buckets rallye dash big block !!!! What a freakin find!!!
THat is an awesome story. Thats cool your girlfriend is involved also. Welcome to the young gun club!!! You'll get addicted to this place!  :burnout:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 4Cruizn on April 06, 2005 - 10:58:17 pm
Welcome!!  Nice car!!!  Yeah this is a cool place!!  (http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage43/12.gif)
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Topcat on April 06, 2005 - 11:42:38 pm
HOLY COW!!! 67 FORMULA S with buckets rallye dash big block !!!! What a freakin find!!!
THat is an awesome story. Thats cool your girlfriend is involved also. Welcome to the young gun club!!! You'll get addicted to this place! :burnout:





Let's not assume it was built with a B blk. Yes, that is the way it sounds, But until it's officicial
let's not guess.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 06, 2005 - 11:53:06 pm
The guy has done nothing to it.  As far as I know it's all original.  He got it in hopes of restoring it but got involved in a '67 SS Camaro (which my girlfriend's sister bought).  That Camaro has a 327, but he said if you lined them up, that 'Cuda would tear up the Camaro.  Norm said it runs like a scared rabbit. ;D  I haven't fired it up (no air cleaner on it).  Everything is original.  He has the grill and fenders but they're in the basement in his house.  He said he has all the body parts, they're just not all attached.  I might even get this thing for free...  He just wants it gone.  I just need to pick it up.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Ghost on April 07, 2005 - 12:46:19 am
Well, we all know that the A body Barracudas were the best ones, and, a Formula S, if its real, is an awesome find! :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Swedefish on April 07, 2005 - 01:18:00 am
Hi 67 Cuda and welcome to the best Mopar board ever.
Great find,and rare.If it`s a Formula S/383 there should be front discs and swaybar up front,no power steering or aircond.8 3/4" rearend with torqboxes in front of rear leafsprings,150 miles speedometer.Some moore pics later on would be nice.There were around 1770 Formula S made -67
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: whitesatinmopar on April 08, 2005 - 04:09:51 pm
WELCOME, and if that lil car is all original you have found an "Indiana Jones" trophy as far as muscle cars are concerned, a little ahead of it's day on the street, the 1967 440's and of course Hemi models would only excede it as far as collection status. You better be on your knees son, CONGRATULATIONS !  :thumbs: And you better marry that girfriend, before "daddy" decides to keep it for himself, lol.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: rnsykes on April 08, 2005 - 04:27:18 pm
 :iagree:  And if you have any  probles with "picking it up", I'd be happy to aleviate this man of his burden.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 08, 2005 - 04:27:58 pm
Haha, thanks man.  Every time one of you guys talk sabout it I just wish I was back home working on that car!     :beer:  Now that you mention it, I'd better grab that thing b efore anybody else realises what she is. :outtahere:  Yes, I will marry that girl, she's got good taste.  Not to mention she's pumped about me restoring this car so she can go to shows and ride around in it with me. 8)

Haha, I don't think I need anything alleviated. ;D
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Topcat on April 08, 2005 - 05:01:29 pm
Let me put it this way 67 cuda, in over 25 years of seeing MOPARS, I have only seen  1  A body Cuda with a big Block on the streets. You have a VERY rare car. :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 08, 2005 - 11:07:12 pm
So any idea as to what a pristine one of these might be worth?  I noticed that '66's were only worth about $16k.  I don't think I'd sell it, though.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 1973challenger360 on April 09, 2005 - 12:25:27 am
if you can get us either the VIN number off the upper part of your dash on the driver's side or your fender tag numbers (driver's side as well under the hood on the inner engine bay fender)

when did they move from the inner part of the door to the dash ?
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 09, 2005 - 10:09:29 am
Okay, I'm not sure if this will tell you anything or not (keep in mind I'm still learning about this car), but I notice a lot of the '67 are 3-speeds; this one is a 4 speed.  Does that really tell you anything?
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Btch n Blue on April 09, 2005 - 10:37:00 am
That means you've got the unbreakable 833 transmission!!! :thumbs: :thumbs:

If you can get your G/F to get us some better pics... that would be FANTASTIC!! :dogpile:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Swedefish on April 09, 2005 - 12:35:16 pm
The vin" is placed on the door pillar on my -67 A-body,but on my -68 vert A-body it`s placed on the dash,both on drivers side.Over the years it has been diffcult to find parts for -67 A-bodies,but nowdays among others Laysons Resto have alot of parts for these cars.Hope You`ll be able to buy this rare Cuda and restore it to its former glory.It`s a great find. :thumbs:  :drool:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 09, 2005 - 01:01:06 pm
Sweet Blue!  Thanks. ;D

Thanks for a picture of where the vin is at.  I'm not going to have the girlfriend take any more pictures, I'm going home next weekend so I'LL do it. ;)
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Moparmatt on April 10, 2005 - 04:32:21 pm
Welcome, 67, and great find!!
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 14, 2005 - 06:20:54 pm
All right, update time.
First I'm going to give you a little more background information, be prepared:
The Barracuda belongs to a guy name Stewart.  He's a family friend of my girlfriend's parents.  Well, Stewart sold a couple tractors for that car.  Thing is, one of the tractor's belonged to another guy, who is a complete jerk.  Stewart was reluctant to sell because that guy might get mad or something.  That guy owes Norm (girlfriend's dad) a lot of money, so they were going to buy the Barracuda, that way if that guy got mad at Stewart or Norm, Norm could call him out on his debt.  Well, Stewart was about to sell when that guy called out of nowhere and scared Stewart.  Finally, after tons of persuasion, Stewart has sold it.  My girlfriend bought it and I'm paying her off.  I just got the final word about 5 minutes ago.  The Barracuda is officially mine.  Now, once I find out if that car is a Formula S I will know what route I want to take.  If it is, she's going back to stock, if not, in goes a 440.

In short:  I OWN A 1967 BARRACUDA!!! :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Ghost on April 14, 2005 - 06:33:46 pm
Congrats!
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 14, 2005 - 06:35:47 pm
P.S. It cost $1,500.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Ghost on April 14, 2005 - 06:36:57 pm
P.S. It cost $1,500.

I take my previous congrats back.  Now I just want to hurt you.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 14, 2005 - 07:08:05 pm
P.P.S.
The girlfriend and I are going in on it together.  I know I know, what if you break up?  We don't really think that's going to happen.  I mean... she has the wedding planned and everything. :wasted:  So with that said, I'm paying $750 for it and she's paying the other $750.  This Sat. we're going down and getting both our names put on the title.  She's been dying for a Mopar to restore, now we can do it together and go to car shows together.  Also, when I'm not home she can get to work on it too.  I am so excited.  I have my dream car and the girlfriend is working on it too.  I have always drempt of my wife wanting to work on my Mopar with me.  I'M SO PUMPED!

And ghost, NEH NEH NEH NEH NEEEH NEEH! :tongue:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Ghost on April 14, 2005 - 07:31:10 pm
Sounds like you got a keeper, there.  Oh, and the girl sounds nice, too. :tongue:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on April 14, 2005 - 11:35:07 pm
Wow, that's awesome!!!  You sound like 74Chall with a girl that enjoys these old cars. :thumbs:  Why couldn't the ones I knew like cars? :dontknow: :gripe:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 14, 2005 - 11:57:18 pm
Well, when her parents build something like this:
(http://img237.echo.cx/img237/4429/opxfidisa5bv.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img237.echo.cx/img237/4230/opxfidisa87tgy0ov.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img237.echo.cx/img237/9166/9ee90py.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img237.echo.cx/img237/3029/953a8fu.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img237.echo.cx/img237/6828/fb3b4pf.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

It's easy to see WHY she is somewhat into cars.  :cool:

I'll get more pictures this weekend as well as all the numbers.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on April 15, 2005 - 12:35:07 am
Very cool, 67 Cuda!!! :drool:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Ghost on April 15, 2005 - 12:53:14 am
My girl is into car.....  Just not older cars. ;)
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 15, 2005 - 09:10:23 am
Hey, sorry to bother, I know this is probably listed somewhere, but I'm having trouble finding it (b*tchn blue even told me last night), where can I find all the numbers?  Where are they all located on a 67 Barracuda?
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: Swedefish on April 15, 2005 - 10:13:50 am
Congrats to the buy 67 cuda
The fendertag is located on the fenderwell close to battery,vin# on front doorpillar and both on drivers side.Post the numbers and I`m sure someone here on the board will be able to decode it.Vin#`s pretty easy to decode.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration
Post by: whitesatinmopar on April 15, 2005 - 02:03:15 pm
Did you say $1500.00 ? Buddy you are one lucky dog, if that car is orginal with that equipment, well I'm starting to be envious to put it politely, nice find, nice STEAL.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 17, 2005 - 09:46:54 pm
All right!  So I went home this weekend and brought it to the girlfriend's house.  Got some bad news, she's not original.  That's not the original engine.  It had the 273 Commando, but the guy didn't like that.  It now has a 383 with a Holley carb and intake and MSD ignition (that's what the switch in the dash is, ignition timing adjuster).  Since it's not original, though, I'm now not afraid to play with it.  I now have huge plans.
If someone could check this VIN for me, I would appreciate it:
BH29D72268200

That's what I pulled off the inside, driver's door.
And here's the pictures (warning, there are a lot).
(http://img184.echo.cx/img184/3426/10012500yg.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/7738/10012517tp.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
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(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/1583/10012539lt.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/407/10012546ia.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/4684/10012558ch.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/3393/10012561aw.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/218/10012573mr.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/5163/10012586xw.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

With these pictures, I didn't have time to crawl under the car so I just reached under there and took what I could:

(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/8530/10012595eh.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img125.echo.cx/img125/4796/10012608dl.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
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(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/1796/10012627wa.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/3343/10012633eh.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/4632/10012642bc.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/6241/10012657xu.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/6135/10012664id.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/1607/10012674oh.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/4545/10012688kb.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/7364/10012690lh.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/6995/10012704is.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)
(http://img139.echo.cx/img139/9425/10012715no.jpg) (http://www.imageshack.us)

On the back of an aluminum part with the fish on it, I pulled this number:
2839108 AN NO 50-541, does that mean anything?

On the steering column I pulled this number:
AP42, does that mean anything?
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: Rev-It-Up on April 17, 2005 - 09:52:13 pm
She looks like a diamond in the rough!!!  I could imagine that car looking really, really mean!  Too bad about the numbers thing, but like you said, there's a goodness to that.  Now you can feel free to do whatever you'd like!  Congrats!!
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 4Cruizn on April 17, 2005 - 10:20:34 pm
That looks like its gonna be a great car!!  Very cool!!   :worship:    :dogpile:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 17, 2005 - 10:34:40 pm
We're entering it in a lot of shows this summer in the "work in progress" category. :tongue:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: Street_Challenged73 on April 17, 2005 - 10:39:34 pm
Bummer it wasn't originally a big block car from the factory.  But like you said, now you can build a monster out of that thing without too much shame.  (unless you were to add APC components, then we'd have to ban you from the community. :grinyes: :tongue:) 

Best of luck with the project as you continue to work on it now. :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: Swedefish on April 18, 2005 - 10:17:35 am
Looks like a nice project,and as said earlier it gives you free hands,how about a SS clone  :grinyes:.Love those rims,would like to have a set of them on my car  8).Good luck with your project. :thumbs:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: AprilsPink72Cuda on April 18, 2005 - 04:09:56 pm
Congrats on your purchase 67Cuda!  Do you think you will keep the 383 or will you go with a 440?  I am glad your girlfrien is as interested in the car as you are.  Best of luck with it!
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 74chall on April 18, 2005 - 06:26:56 pm
Sorry to break you heart bud but that is a small block not a big block and it has an 8 1/4 rear. 383's are big blocks. That could be a 273-318-360-or340. Easy way to tell a big block is the distributor is in the front of the motor. Nick...  :dontknow:
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 18, 2005 - 08:20:22 pm
Sorry to break you heart bud but that is a small block not a big block and it has an 8 1/4 rear. 383's are big blocks. That could be a 273-318-360-or340. Easy way to tell a big block is the distributor is in the front of the motor. Nick...  :dontknow:
Exactly what someone on the forabodiesonly.com forum told me.  They're thinking a 360 or 340.  It's not the 273 (as stated), so I'm thinking the guy probably put in a 360...  I will not keep that in, April, my dream engine is a 440.  I was looking at Siamese Water Jacket 440 block because I would love to bore and stroke the thing.  Of course the block alone is about $2,100 then there is all the components, so I'm just going to get the engine that's in there running and start saving up.  440 bored and stroked to at least 500+ci then just high performance everything else.  I would love to build an NA beast.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: Ghost on April 19, 2005 - 04:17:01 am
The 360 in a little A body shall be PLENTY of power, for now.
Title: Re: 1967 Barracuda Restoration *New Pictures!*
Post by: 67 Cuda on April 19, 2005 - 10:06:49 am
For now... of course. 8) Until I get EVERYTHING else done whatever is in it now will satisfy me.  It'll still beat the girlfriend's sister's 67 Camaro so I'll just keep it for now. ;D Of course I can't leave it at that, though!  I have a whole list of things I want to do... eventually...