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Offline AU6pack

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Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« on: June 16, 2016 - 08:59:28 pm »
This build is almost a retrospective given I have been meaning to post this for about 18 months, over which time my build has progressed, but not hugely.

I want to share my project with you all in the hope that someone will get a kick out of it, hopefully some ideas from it, Ill get some inspiration from you - and sometimes, someone might stop me from doing something completely stupid!

I have no fabrication skills, dont know the first thing about body & paint but Im OK with general mechanics. I got inspired by following Toxic Wolfs A66 Challenger with his & Roadmans handy work, as well as other projects Ive been following. I have learned most of what I know about my car from trial and error, but mostly from these forums and all the excellent contributions from the members.  And Brad (brads 70) seems to have a diagram & measurements for anything he has made - or is planning to make!!

This is my fourth Mopar I imported from the USA. Ive had 2 1970 Challengers one a 318 and the other a 383 SE, 1 Duster 440. All I sold and made a little money on to help finance my ultimate desire 1970 Sublime 4 speed Challenger T/A.

I was looking for a real T/A but at the time couldnt find anything decent under $75K ($100K Aussie, plus GST, plus luxury car tax etc.) which was way out of my budget - Strike 1. Then I thought well if its worth that much, I wont drive it and leave it anywhere unattended - Strike 2. If it is an original car, I wouldnt feel right modifying it, it has to be sublime and 340 cubes just wont cut it - Strike 3.

Now for the car! I saw this ad in Cars On Line. It was a tribute car and looked very convincing with 6 pack etc. & very straight. The price was right (for what I knew at the time) so I got an independent inspection carried out. It gave the car the most glowing review Ive ever read (and I think the vendor gave him something too) and upon reading it the deal was done. I wanted a car that needed zero body work and I would just trick up the engine and suspension to get my E-Max style Challenger.

Long story short, I picked it up from the port in Melbourne and it ran like a dog, black smoke, backfiring, popping, handled like a boat but the brakes worked luckily. I got home, opened the trunk and WTF its copper colour inside my new red car!!! I looked in the wheel arches more copper. It was never mentioned by the vendor. How did that get missed in the inspection? I looked back through the photos Id been sent and the trunk photos were washed out due to the angle they were taken in really bright sunlight - you cant pick the colour it looks kinda red. I would have offered much less for the car if I had known this fact, or what Id find later.

Then I started finding rust.

Here are a couple of pics (the car, the progress, the goal) and I will post a lot more soon
« Last Edit: June 21, 2016 - 02:31:59 am by AU6pack »
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0




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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016 - 09:10:15 pm »
I peeled back the vinyl trunk mat and found the dreaded black goop. No mention of this in the report! After scraping it back, I started finding crappy fiberglass and tin patches covered in this crap. After hours with the scraper and wire wheel it became obvious a new trunk floor would be required. There goes the suspension & engine/gearbox only upgrade Oh and did I mention the True Tac rear was actually an open diff?
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016 - 09:45:25 pm »
I know the feeling!







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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016 - 10:11:48 pm »
Nice build  :thumbsup:
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2016 - 10:29:48 pm »
Out with the old - in with the new. Installing a Hotckis TVS system, QA1 K member & lower control arms, Wilwood disks, Magnum 2" drop spindles. Wish I had a set of scales to compare the old vs the new suspension. Anyone done this weight comparison?
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2016 - 10:48:47 pm »
Tunnel mods to install the TKO 600 5 speed. I bought this kit from Keisler (told you I have been collecting parts for a while) just before the folded. Took almost 12 months from the time I ordered and paid for it till it hit my door step. No wonder they went bust.
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016 - 04:55:40 am »
Hello follow melbournen . i like your plans ,Should be a great car to drv with that new box . I live in the mill park lakes area and  have seen your car a few times.  looks great on the road .A mate of mine in greensborough with a 68 charger  has just finished putting in that same front end.  P.S     I too  paid some one to look at my car before i put up the coin . But when it got here   i could have cryed . The body work just cost way to much.     Any way look forward in seeing your challenger around   :cheers:
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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016 - 01:27:43 pm »
Super cool project. Let us know what you think of those suspension upgrades.I was always curious about that Hotchkis TVS setup.
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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2016 - 02:10:37 am »
I too  paid some one to look at my car before i put up the coin . But when it got here   i could have cried . The body work just cost way to much.     Any way look forward in seeing your challenger around   :cheers:

Hey cudamadd, they must be all on the take. Its crushing waiting 3 months to get a big disappointment like that. Look forward to seeing you around - probably next year the way things are going with the body..  :cheers:
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2016 - 02:12:21 am »
Super cool project. Let us know what you think of those suspension upgrades.I was always curious about that Hotchkis TVS setup.

Will do. Should be a blast to drive. Just wish i had have know about all of the the US Car Tools stiffening parts before I got this far with the body  :banghead:
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2016 - 02:31:31 am »
More progress... engine out and sold. Vinyl roof off - revealing rust and pitting.  Trunk metal done.

Other rust sections cut out and replaced. Car had a reasonable hit on the right hand side at some point, but all better now!
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2016 - 02:45:57 am »
Engine bay clean up. Filling as many of the unnecessary holes as possible.  Plugged up the blower hole too as I am going with a Vintage air unit and think the finish will look better with just the hoses through the firewall than the block off plate.
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2016 - 03:07:57 am »
Metric Speed Hut gauges turned up yesterday. They look great in the flesh. Going to replace all interior wood grain with faux carbon.

Got the centre console from Year One. It is really crap quality. The top plate is from PG and neither fit together that great. Its passable but only just. I should have gone with an original one. My one was cracked and broken in the seat belt slots. Any suggestions on where to source a good quality one in good condition?

The bezel piece from Detroit and all their other carbon decals are awesome quality.
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0

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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016 - 02:10:37 pm »
Wow!!!   A big project and it'll be worth it in the end!   T/Anks for sharing the pics, etc.

Will your end plans involve any racing (AX/HSAX/road course lapping, etc)?... perhaps more than just "show"?
 
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Re: Aussie E-Max style T/A Challenger
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016 - 07:09:51 pm »
Wow!!!   A big project and it'll be worth it in the end!   T/Anks for sharing the pics, etc.

Will your end plans involve any racing (AX/HSAX/road course lapping, etc)?... perhaps more than just "show"?


Thanks Mitch. There really isn't a category to race in Australia for a car like this. It would need a roll cage to enter anything serious and I (unfortunately) committed to retaining 15" wheel set up, so I have sacrificed brake rotor size and caliper piston count in the process.

There is a category that is the best racing in the country called Touring Car Masters that are late 60's early 70's Australian & American race cars. You should check it out -  http://www.touringcarmasters.com.au/. I may look into some motor Kana type events or track days where street cars without roll cages can go out for timed lap, but not racing per se.

I have enjoyed reading lots about your car & set up in the past and the advice you have given to consider what you want to use the car before you build it. Good advice.
Craig
Melbourne, Australia
1970 Challenger 416 6 pak
Resto thread - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=114787.0