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CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« on: August 29, 2016 - 01:24:33 AM »
 I am really impressed with PC's knowledge of MOPARS and how to build them,after reading a sh!t ton of his suggestions on numerous posts asking the same questions over and over I think that he should start a post in each category big/small blocks on how to build a stroker motor for the least amount of money :thumbsup:I bet he could write each post with part numbers off the top of his head and where to source them.We as members have a great source of info in him and should be greatful that he loves to help out anyone! Thanks Neil :thumbsup: :wow:


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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016 - 05:25:14 AM »
Too many variables , every engine is unique .
 I have built B & RB strokers using every displacement & type of cylinder head available or so I thought ,
 & now they have Promaxx & the new Trick flow heads which I have never used , each combo is different with different combustion volumes pistons & deck heights .
 I have used mostly stock blocks but have built a few with the Max block too where the power would exceed the limitation of the stock block , nothing like using a block that can take over 2500 hp !!
 I have built less small blocks , for the same $$ you can build a big block . I have tried less combos but 340/360 with ported 308 heads make serious power especially stroked to 408/412, I did a 360 W2 , it was silly & worth every penny , the engine had a lobe go flat & tried everything to blow it up rather than fix it , bent the con rods but it held together . I have never done an R3 build but would love to & stick it into a D50 !!
 Cams are the biggest black hole , thousands of choices from hundreds of companies unique to every build , if you are lugging the engine on the highway using 3.23 gear & overdrive you need a totally different cam from an engine with a 3500 stall & 4.30 gears , compression affects everything too , low compression needs to build cyl pressure high compression with the same cam you could uncontrollable detonation & no top end power
 I have used roots & centrifical blowers , all kinds of carbs & built EFI systems but I have yet to build a turbo engine , although that was the plan for the 71 Charger but I never had the funds to build it , it would have been 512 CI with twin turbos & EFI , what better car for room for intercoolers etc using a car with a 7' hood & almost 24 " between the rad & grille !!
 I really need a new project but I cannot narrow down what I want to try next , thinking maybe a Cummins powered rat rod with twin turbo but I cannot see that being very comfortable , I am interested in building a 5.9 with 1600 ft lbs tq at the tires & no detonation problems though !!  It really doesn't matter anyway as I am flat broke as usual .
Probably my best build was a 71 GTX 440 with an 8/71 blower , the whole car cost 15k to build & ran 10.2 @ 134 mph making close to 800 hp & it was reliable . 

 I gave the entire car scene up 5+ years ago for health & financial reasons . I have not touched a car or built even 1 engine in over 5 years now , except for the member cars at Carlisle , even though it is my passion . AT least I am not deathly sick 7 months / year here ! Apparently you cannot have it all just one or the other but never both .

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016 - 11:54:33 PM »
  I agree that there are endless combos but I am seeing more and more guys wanting a nice reliable stroker such as a 512 that will keep up to or blow away most of the new stuff! The most common wish list comboI hear are an auto with a decent street stall,3:55 gearing so they can tour and a hot engine that is reliable,I suppose even then the varying weights of diff cars could/would leave ya with numerous cam choices.Most guys I know want a quick street car that can take a beating at the track occasionally.Just for sh!ts and giggles what combo would you put together for a mostly street driven E-body as described above?


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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2016 - 09:26:06 AM »
  I agree that there are endless combos but I am seeing more and more guys wanting a nice reliable stroker such as a 512 that will keep up to or blow away most of the new stuff! The most common wish list comboI hear are an auto with a decent street stall,3:55 gearing so they can tour and a hot engine that is reliable,I suppose even then the varying weights of diff cars could/would leave ya with numerous cam choices.Most guys I know want a quick street car that can take a beating at the track occasionally.Just for sh!ts and giggles what combo would you put together for a mostly street driven E-body as described above?

Thats what Im looking to do right now.  Did anyone ever get a parts list together?

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2016 - 10:20:40 AM »
I'll throw in the list for my 505ci (could easily be a 512ci), should be a 550hp/600tq build with 10.34:1 compression that will have nice street manners and be pump gas friendly.  Installing in my Charger within the next few weeks.

1975 440 block
Camshaft - Lunati 60312 Hyd Roller Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 231/239, Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .535/.550, LSA/ICL: 110/106, RPM Range: 2200-6200
Cam Button - Comp 206
Timing chain - Lunati 94225
Roller Lifters - Lunati 72338-16
Rocker Arms - Comp Roller Set 1621-16
Springs - Comp 925
Heads - Edelbrock 60929
Pushrods - Comp 7774
Bronze Dist/oil pump drive - Mopar P3690875
Head Bolts - ARP 145-3606
Main Studs - ARP 140-5401
440 Source Stroker kit - 440.512.5060
Pistons - 5060 4R 4L
Piston Rings - CR6490-35
Rods - 7.1"
Main Bearings - Clevite MS1795V
Rod Bearings - Clevite CB743HN
Cam Bearings - Clevite SH876S
Oil Pan - Summit 440 6 pack deep pan
Oil Pan Gasket - Fel-Pro 1834
Valve Cover Gasket - Moroso 93055
Valley Pan Gasket set - Fel Pro 1215
T-stat - Milodon 180 high flow 16406
Plugs - Champion RC-12YC
Windage Tray - 440 source for stroker
Bore - 4.350
Stroke - 4.25
Head Gaskets - Fel Pro Perma Torque 8519-PT
Carb - Proform 850 Black Street Series 67314
Intake - Holley Street Dominator HLY-300-14
Water Pump/housing - Mancini High Volume Kit MRE6900KAH
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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2016 - 03:10:24 PM »
I'll throw in the list for my 505ci (could easily be a 512ci), should be a 550hp/600tq build with 10.34:1 compression that will have nice street manners and be pump gas friendly.  Installing in my Charger within the next few weeks.

1975 440 block
Camshaft - Lunati 60312 Hyd Roller Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 231/239, Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .535/.550, LSA/ICL: 110/106, RPM Range: 2200-6200
Cam Button - Comp 206
Timing chain - Lunati 94225
Roller Lifters - Lunati 72338-16
Rocker Arms - Comp Roller Set 1621-16
Springs - Comp 925
Heads - Edelbrock 60929
Pushrods - Comp 7774
Bronze Dist/oil pump drive - Mopar P3690875
Head Bolts - ARP 145-3606
Main Studs - ARP 140-5401
440 Source Stroker kit - 440.512.5060
Pistons - 5060 4R 4L
Piston Rings - CR6490-35
Rods - 7.1"
Main Bearings - Clevite MS1795V
Rod Bearings - Clevite CB743HN
Cam Bearings - Clevite SH876S
Oil Pan - Summit 440 6 pack deep pan
Oil Pan Gasket - Fel-Pro 1834
Valve Cover Gasket - Moroso 93055
Valley Pan Gasket set - Fel Pro 1215
T-stat - Milodon 180 high flow 16406
Plugs - Champion RC-12YC
Windage Tray - 440 source for stroker
Bore - 4.350
Stroke - 4.25
Head Gaskets - Fel Pro Perma Torque 8519-PT
Carb - Proform 850 Black Street Series 67314
Intake - Holley Street Dominator HLY-300-14
Water Pump/housing - Mancini High Volume Kit MRE6900KAH

Thanks!  Thats exactly what I'm looking for.  Any idea what the parts cost was approx?  What did you for headers BTW?

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2016 - 05:42:18 PM »
Thanks!  Thats exactly what I'm looking for.  Any idea what the parts cost was approx?  What did you for headers BTW?

I have a very similar build. Probably about 7k in parts and machining
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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016 - 06:24:34 PM »
Let me see what I can put together for a list

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016 - 07:12:57 PM »
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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2016 - 08:17:21 PM »
Thanks!  Thats exactly what I'm looking for.  Any idea what the parts cost was approx?  What did you for headers BTW?

About $7k in parts.   TTI 1 7/8" ceramic with 3" h-pipe exhaust. 

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2016 - 09:12:57 PM »
Dfrazz, our builds are identical except for heads and bore. Did you fire yours up yet?? You are going to love it, mine is an absolute animal
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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2016 - 10:32:16 AM »
Dfrazz, our builds are identical except for heads and bore. Did you fire yours up yet?? You are going to love it, mine is an absolute animal

Pulling the current 440 in the next couple of weeks and hope to have the new engine in and burning rubber before Thanksgiving! 

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2016 - 03:00:07 PM »
subscribing to this as well. Looks like a few of us getting new power plants.

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2016 - 01:20:42 PM »
I just finished and fired my 512 build.  It's very similar to dfrazz with the following exceptions:

Pro Max aluminum heads (good quality and only $1200)
Lunati Voodoo Hydraulic Flat Tappet & Lifter Kit - Chrysler 361-440 Three Bolt 276/284 Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .513/.533
Holley dominator aluminum intake
PRW rocker arms
Quick Fuel 880 CFM Carb.
TTI polished ceramic headers
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda.  Matching numbers 440 U Code, 4 speed pistol grip, Rallye dash, AM 8 Track, Shaker hood, 15 inch rallye wheels, Dana 60 4.10, Super Track Pak.  One of 134 - 440 "U" coupes codes built in 1970 and one of 100 - 440 Super Track Paks built in 1970.

Restoration pictures at:  http://spanks4thememory.smugmug.com/Cars/70-Cuda/7240639_M24oi#465274575_2MBqW

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Re: CHRYCO BUILD LIST FOR SMALL AND BIG BLOCK STROKERS
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2016 - 10:08:32 AM »
Here is my 505 - no numbers except it plants you back in your seat. Very happy with this combo, runs amazing in every gear, and pulls as long as you want it to.

https://youtu.be/HIYHRgbeYOI

https://youtu.be/UrF7DdJVZFw