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Offline citron fella

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how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« on: July 11, 2017 - 12:27:54 pm »
i'm just curious yellow.. LOL i know there were a total of 23088 1971 challengers produced and only 1078 were 340 cars. who's good at math? thanks in advance


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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2017 - 12:50:08 pm »
If it was strictly a math problem you would divide the total number of 340 Challengers (1078) by the total number of Challengers produced (23088) to determine that approximately 4.7% were 340 cars.  Then, you would multiply the total number of Challengers produced (23088) X the percentage of 340 Challengers built (4.7% or .047) X the percentage of cars painted Citron Yellow (4.2% or .042) to determine that approximatley 45 to 46 cars were Citron Yellow 340 Challengers.

Actual numbers, however, could be quite different.


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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2017 - 01:03:28 pm »
thank you fantum i appreciate you sharing your knowledge


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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2017 - 04:35:20 pm »
There is no way to know.  Those records were not kept.   

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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2017 - 05:37:46 pm »
you don't think a close approximation can be achieved


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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2017 - 10:48:30 pm »
It would be a low number.  Even though no records were recorder.
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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017 - 12:34:32 am »
If only 2% of the 23000 Challengers were in that color, then that would mean roughly 460 cars would be the max range. Factor in that less than 4.7% had the 340 and that brings it down to about 21 cars. Of course, if we could go back and track it, we might find that people who loved the 340 also happen to be people who love that color as well so I agree that we can never really know.

I put the number between 21 and 460.

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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017 - 12:55:29 am »
burder is correct - there is no way of knowing for certain. Chrysler did not track combinations of options, only the installation rates of each individual option. They did track the engine/trans combination tho. But, you can usually come up with a reasonable guesstimate for your vehicle based on a few of the main options.

First, there were 23,088 Challengers (Coupes and Hardtops) built in 1971 - but, some of those went to Canada and International markets. If yours is a Base Hardtop (JH23) and was built to USA specifications - a "U" on the second to last row on your fender tag - then your car is one of 17,914 that were shipped to USA dealers. If you have an R/T (JS23), then 3,907 were shipped off to USA dealers.

Now we can address the engine/trans combo.

Of the 17,914 Base Challenger Hardtops shipped, 2.0% came with the 340 & Automatic trans, 1.4% came with the 340 & 4-speed, and 0.2% came with the 340 & 3-speed trans. So that is approximately 358 made with 340/Auto, 251 made with the 340/4spd, and 36 made with the 340/3spd.

Regarding the 3,907 R/Ts, 18.7% came with the 340/Auto, 8.0% came with the 340/4spd, and 0.9% had the 340/3spd. That's around 731, 313, and 35 respectively.

Since you stated that there were 1078 340 cars - that matches the 340 R/T production. I am guessing that yours is an Auto, so you are looking at 731 cars built with that configuration.

Now we know that GY3 Citron Yella was a little more popular on R/Ts than on the rest of the Challenger line (Installation rate of 6.7%). But we don't know if it was more popular on 340 cars, or 383 cars, or Hemi cars - etc. But it would be fairly safe to say that the installation rate of GY3 on the 340 cars was not any more than 10-12%. So if we multiply 731 (340/Auto R/Ts) times a safe 12% (Citron Yella guesstimate) - we get no more than 88 cars of that combo.

So you are easily looking at no more than 100 R/Ts that came equipped with the 340/Auto combo that were painted Citron Yella.

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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017 - 06:19:29 am »
It would be a low number.  Even though no records were recorder.
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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017 - 06:21:49 am »
If only 2% of the 23000 Challengers were in that color, then that would mean roughly 460 cars would be the max range. Factor in that less than 4.7% had the 340 and that brings it down to about 21 cars. Of course, if we could go back and track it, we might find that people who loved the 340 also happen to be people who love that color as well so I agree that we can never really know.

I put the number between 21 and 460.
that's too bad i was just curious it's not like i'm ever going to sell her it's however good conversation at the local meet ups thanks


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how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2017 - 06:51:06 am »
burder is correct - there is no way of knowing for certain. Chrysler did not track combinations of options, only the installation rates of each individual option. They did track the engine/trans combination tho. But, you can usually come up with a reasonable guesstimate for your vehicle based on a few of the main options.

First, there were 23,088 Challengers (Coupes and Hardtops) built in 1971 - but, some of those went to Canada and International markets. If yours is a Base Hardtop (JH23) and was built to USA specifications - a "U" on the second to last row on your fender tag - then your car is one of 17,914 that were shipped to USA dealers. If you have an R/T (JS23), then 3,907 were shipped off to USA dealers.

Now we can address the engine/trans combo.

Of the 17,914 Base Challenger Hardtops shipped, 2.0% came with the 340 & Automatic trans, 1.4% came with the 340 & 4-speed, and 0.2% came with the 340 & 3-speed trans. So that is approximately 358 made with 340/Auto, 251 made with the 340/4spd, and 36 made with the 340/3spd.

Regarding the 3,907 R/Ts, 18.7% came with the 340/Auto, 8.0% came with the 340/4spd, and 0.9% had the 340/3spd. That's around 731, 313, and 35 respectively.

Since you stated that there were 1078 340 cars - that matches the 340 R/T production. I am guessing that yours is an Auto, so you are looking at 731 cars built with that configuration.

Now we know that GY3 Citron Yella was a little more popular on R/Ts than on the rest of the Challenger line (Installation rate of 6.7%). But we don't know if it was more popular on 340 cars, or 383 cars, or Hemi cars - etc. But it would be fairly safe to say that the installation rate of GY3 on the 340 cars was not any more than 10-12%. So if we multiply 731 (340/Auto R/Ts) times a safe 12% (Citron Yella guesstimate) - we get no more than 88 cars of that combo.

So you are easily looking at no more than 100 R/Ts that came equipped with the 340/Auto combo that were painted Citron Yella.
thank you for sharing your knowledge and time. my car was manufactured in MI and she's not an RT.  she is however a 2 owner, numbers matching 340 car. i have located and matched all the VIN's except the one on the package tray and under the weather stripping in the trunk.  she's also NOT a citron yella car but an EL5 butterscotch car. this was plainly obvious in the photo documented restoration. i'm not sure i'll ever be a fan of that color but according to records i've researched this color was just behind hemi orange at 5.5% in popularity. i wish i had a broadcast sheet. she was a frame off restoration but i, as of last night,  peeked behind the front seat backs and under the buckets with no luck. maybe at some point i'll check behind the dash and rear seats but i highly doubt it as the was completely disassembled and sand blasted before paint. it was fun looking for the VIN stamps and broadcast sheet :)


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Re: how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2017 - 12:25:47 pm »
matched all the VIN's except the one on the package tray and under the weather stripping in the trunk. 

I hope not...... E bodies don't have either of those VIN stampings...
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how many 1971 340 cars produced by color?
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2017 - 01:06:28 pm »
that's good to know. thanks 1 Wild R/T that puts my mind at ease on my numbers matcher :)


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