Author Topic: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar  (Read 17269 times)

Offline myduster360

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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2016 - 11:52:43 AM »
Oh wow, I just googled Diablo CMR, I had no idea that was around. So that's what they were using on GassMonkey? Cool  :thumbsup:

DiabloSport CMR was released for Dodge vehicles back in 2008. I've had mine since ~2010, mostly tuning Srt-4 turbos but also a handful of  turbo and supercharged Hemis. I have a few 4cly in the 10s & making over 600whp. So recalibrating the 3.6L for turbos should be straight forward-->2 or 3Bar MAP sensors, larger injectors,  rescaled tables, ect....I haven't even looked yet at the 3.6 Calibration but I should be able to change the cam phasing to make the valve timing more Turbo friendly

I know the guys at Diablo who helped the GasMonkey guys, so I need to check in with them about bypassing the 3.6l Security protocols so this thing will stay running, which imo is the biggest hurdle.
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2016 - 07:36:57 AM »
Awesome! cant wait to see how this goes. I need to rob a bank or something so I can start buying parts.  :angelwings: :roflsmiley:
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2016 - 03:21:11 PM »
. The Stock PCM is light years ahead of an MS, so it would be a last ditched, best worst option

IMO that is an odd statement. The oe computer doesn't even support a wide band O2 sensor.

I wish Chrysler was more supportive of the aftermarket, but I think they couldn't care less...
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2016 - 06:16:18 PM »
IMO that is an odd statement. The oe computer doesn't even support a wide band O2 sensor.

I wish Chrysler was more supportive of the aftermarket, but I think they couldn't care less...

LOL,,there's quite a bit more to make the stock GPEC2 pcm superior in every way to an MS than whether or not it has a wideband.

I 100% agree though, I really wish Mopar Performance had the PCM/Pedal/Wiring swap kits like Ford Racing and GM sell
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2016 - 07:09:10 AM »
One thing after looking though the internet for these engines. I'd love to see an aftermarket intake manifold. The stock one is ugly as hell. Almost makes me lean towards the supercharger vs turbos just for looks

at least these engines are cheap.
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2016 - 08:18:14 AM »
One thing after looking though the internet for these engines. I'd love to see an aftermarket intake manifold. The stock one is ugly as hell. Almost makes me lean towards the supercharger vs turbos just for looks

at least these engines are cheap.

As far as I can tell there are two different factory ones,,,Rams and Wranglers have one style(imo "looks" somewhat muscular) and every other platform has another. In general OEM intakes tend to make more average torque and Hp than an aftermarket, so it's not high on my list to swap out.


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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2016 - 08:23:08 AM »
This one that wraps around the and put the tb on the rear passenger valve cover is what appears on every other vehicle except Rams and Wranglers.

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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2016 - 08:29:25 AM »
Here's the RAM and Wrangler manifold that has the TB come right out the front and imo looks fine especially when you see the Torque curve it makes.

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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2016 - 11:44:46 AM »
It's not horrible but when I see the SC on it like this, I think there is room for "visual" improvement.  I know the stock manifold is actually a pretty efficient piece I just wish it would look a little better
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2016 - 01:24:59 PM »
Myduster360,  what are your thoughts on head porting the 3.6? I don't know enough about it to know one way or another
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2016 - 09:20:36 AM »
Myduster360,

any progress on your build?
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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2016 - 04:38:25 PM »
Well I got the 2013 Engine and T5 Z spec 5-speed Transmission. The Bellhousing went back to Quicktime since it was hitting part of the block.

Also picked up a 8-1/4 rear end with 4.56 gears along with 11" Rear Disk brakes and a drive shaft

My new 30x32 shop is nearly up so that's been consuming some time.

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Re: Hot rodding the 3.6 Pentastar
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2016 - 09:07:03 AM »
sweet!  Is Quicktime going to modify the bellhousing? whats the next step with that?
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