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Offline 4x4HEMIrig

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72 Chally?
« on: October 21, 2011 - 01:20:39 AM »
Advertised as a 1972 Challenger 318 Rallye with a 383, I bought the car for $26,500.

I've been told by 2 seperate parties that I have a 1972 Challenger 340 R/T

The VIN and the Firewall numbers match:
JS23H2B347890
B347890

As she sits with factory everything except:

front seat covers
carpet
383 engine
electric fuel pump
fiberglass front fenders

what's she worth?

What do you think she will be worth with a custom, aluminum dash? http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=80057.msg807985#new
-Aaron-
Bozeman, MT, USA (and wherever the Navy takes me)

2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, Rigid industries off road lights, Rough Country 4" suspension lift, CB radio... still working on it.
Fellow Service Members and Veterans, join me on www.togetherweserved.com, JK owners at www.jkowners.com, and Hemi Truck owners (and former owners) on www.hemitruckclub.com.
Former wheels: 1972 Dodge Challenger 340 Rallye, 2003 Hemi Ram 1500, 2006 Dodge Charger R/T.
Future projects in the garage: Streetable .030 over 383, 1977 Chevy Custom 20 SC/LB.




Offline TorOrange

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011 - 01:40:39 AM »
Nope they were wrong  :poopoke:

JS23    Challenger RT 2Dr Hardtop                 70 - 71
JS23    Challenger Rallye 2Dr Hardtop         72 - 74

Sorry can't help you with pricing not up to date on Challengers. But IMO if you do a custom dash you might have less interest than keeping it with the rallye cluster. I'm sure others will agree.
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Offline 4x4HEMIrig

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011 - 09:32:36 PM »
I am a little confused then, One guy is a serious Mopar guy here in my area. The other is someone who was looking at the car while I had it in the shop.

 The Mopar guy and the other interested party are going off the Galen Goveier books.

Other than a little bashing here and there, I have not found any irrefutable proof either way.
-Aaron-
Bozeman, MT, USA (and wherever the Navy takes me)

2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, Rigid industries off road lights, Rough Country 4" suspension lift, CB radio... still working on it.
Fellow Service Members and Veterans, join me on www.togetherweserved.com, JK owners at www.jkowners.com, and Hemi Truck owners (and former owners) on www.hemitruckclub.com.
Former wheels: 1972 Dodge Challenger 340 Rallye, 2003 Hemi Ram 1500, 2006 Dodge Charger R/T.
Future projects in the garage: Streetable .030 over 383, 1977 Chevy Custom 20 SC/LB.

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011 - 09:43:57 PM »
Hmm well not a Challenger expert but I'm pretty sure that's a Rallye car not a R/T because it's a 72.
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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011 - 09:58:23 PM »
I know Dodge was notorious for advertising cars as something other than what they actually were.

That's why I'm confused.
-Aaron-
Bozeman, MT, USA (and wherever the Navy takes me)

2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, Rigid industries off road lights, Rough Country 4" suspension lift, CB radio... still working on it.
Fellow Service Members and Veterans, join me on www.togetherweserved.com, JK owners at www.jkowners.com, and Hemi Truck owners (and former owners) on www.hemitruckclub.com.
Former wheels: 1972 Dodge Challenger 340 Rallye, 2003 Hemi Ram 1500, 2006 Dodge Charger R/T.
Future projects in the garage: Streetable .030 over 383, 1977 Chevy Custom 20 SC/LB.

Offline Katfish

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011 - 10:03:26 PM »
R/T is only for 70-71, 72-74 sport models were designated at Ralley, probably because the big blocks were no longer optional.

Good info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Challenger

Good news your car is a 340 car though.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2011 - 10:12:48 PM by Katfish »

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011 - 10:22:35 PM »
I have a 72 early built challenger (sold in late 71)and there is some original paperwork that still calls it an r/t  but the original window sticker says raylle   and as much as I like calling it an r/t the raylle replaced the r/t  in 72,,I will always keep the paperwork that says r/t but I have never been able to say or have verified  that it is an r/t,,I dont know why they changed it but they did and I have seen several early 72's , some including mine have some 71 parts but they are still raylle's for whatever reason

sorry for the blurred pictures, all I have right now, you can see them better at http://www.cardomain.com/ride/399010/1972-dodge-challenger/page-11
« Last Edit: October 22, 2011 - 10:27:13 PM by 72rtchallenger »
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Offline 4x4HEMIrig

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011 - 12:37:51 AM »
I haven't checked under the rear seat, but if there are some original docs there, I might be able to say the same thing. The front seats have definitely been out of the car. They have cloth centers unlike the back which is vinyl with the same pattern.
-Aaron-
Bozeman, MT, USA (and wherever the Navy takes me)

2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon, Rigid industries off road lights, Rough Country 4" suspension lift, CB radio... still working on it.
Fellow Service Members and Veterans, join me on www.togetherweserved.com, JK owners at www.jkowners.com, and Hemi Truck owners (and former owners) on www.hemitruckclub.com.
Former wheels: 1972 Dodge Challenger 340 Rallye, 2003 Hemi Ram 1500, 2006 Dodge Charger R/T.
Future projects in the garage: Streetable .030 over 383, 1977 Chevy Custom 20 SC/LB.

Offline Super Blue 72

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011 - 12:52:42 PM »
Same deal as 72rtchallenger, my consumer info sheet says "Challenger R/T" on it despite being a '72 Rallye car.  For the model year 1972 there were no Challenger R/T models as advertised in the sales literature for that year, only Challenger Rallye which replaced the R/T from '71.

Would be helpful if you posted some pics if you want people to chime in on it's worth.  Generally the more you stray from stock, the less it's worth, IMO.  It's just that anything from stock is a matter of preferential taste as far as the mods go.

Best though, IMO, to advertise it as a Rallye car as some may think stating it's an R/T may be misleading.  :2cents:

From the VIN it's looks lika a '72 Challenger Rallye 340 car (5th digit =H=340.  If it was a 318 car the 5th digit would be a G). 
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011 - 02:28:30 PM »
Yeah, as a matter of definition, no R/T cars in '72. That's when they became rallye's, so its not an R/T.

What's the build date though? As super blue pointed out, some of the early '72 model year cars had leftover '71 parts. Like his car, my car (built 8/17/71) has quite a few '71 pieces on it (fuel tank, filler, gauges, etc). It would still be a Rallye, but some of that early documentation may list it as an R/T.

What does the rest of the fender tag say?

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011 - 09:41:10 PM »
i have a '72 JH23H2B non-rallye 340 4 speed car

your car is definitely a rallye 340 car.

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Re: 72 Chally?
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2011 - 11:23:43 PM »

what's she worth?

What do you think she will be worth with a custom, aluminum dash? http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=80057.msg807985#new


She has lost some value (like most things in this market), so not likely it would fetch that much today and the aluminum dash wouldn't likely add (possibly reduce) value.
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