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Offline Bruning Auto Design

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2007 - 03:03:28 PM »
Wow, that is neat.  Never seen the Corvette stuff under a Mopar, just doesn't seem right for some reason!!   ;)

Can I see pictures of what your are doing for the frame?

Is it going to be a perimeter frame like the Corvettes?  Is it going to be integrated in the old Challenger unibody?

Is it going to run transverse leafs or are you going with coil overs?

I thought the torque tube/rear mounted transmission would have improved weight distribution for handling purposes, did it just not fit?

Very different, for sure!!   8)


Here is the new frame to date...... 1.5" .120 wall DOM


What's left of the Challenger's shell will be integrated into the new chassis/roll cage. 

The 6 speed tranny & rear differential will still be mounted in the rear, but not attached by the factory corvette torque tube.  The pictures of the bearing/bellhousing/adapter show the beginnings of what will replace the torque tube.

Regarding the corvette suspension.... We looked into using viper instead but the cost & design limitations stopped that.  Corvette C5 suspension is pretty popular.  Johnson's G-Force Cuda has vette suspension and there are a handful of other builders building mustangs, etc. as well.

The only suspension pieces that we are going to use in addition to the tremec 6 speed and Independant differential are the front & rear spindles and control arms.  The arms are set up in the jigs to factory specs.  The chassis will then be built from there.  The vette brakes are gone as well in favor of 15" rotors and 6 piston BAER calipers front & rear.

thanks for watching ;)




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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2007 - 07:47:09 PM »
man that looks amazing! did i miss the turbo setup, whats the specs on that?
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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2007 - 08:05:24 PM »
Don't shoot me, but the build looks awesome, I would change one thing on the chassis.

The rear wheels look just a touch more forward than centered. Maybe just my reference, but cars look best I think when the wheels are centered in the well front to rear.

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2007 - 11:42:57 PM »
Depends on whether you center them to the top of the opening, as these are, or to the bottom of the opening. In stock form they are centered more like this set up.

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2007 - 12:52:48 AM »
Lots of work but sure looks good. What a great car it will be when done. I can't wait to see more pictures.


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Offline Bruning Auto Design

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2007 - 12:32:09 PM »
man that looks amazing! did i miss the turbo setup, whats the specs on that?

Thanks! RE: Turbos - TBD... 

Don't shoot me, but the build looks awesome, I would change one thing on the chassis.

The rear wheels look just a touch more forward than centered. Maybe just my reference, but cars look best I think when the wheels are centered in the well front to rear.

I agree.  that picture is showing tire fitment, but not the final location.  The tire is mocked in place to get perspective of stance, etc.  In this picture, Tim determined the center point of the opening to make a template for the new wheel tubs. 

Thank you for your input :)

Depends on whether you center them to the top of the opening, as these are, or to the bottom of the opening. In stock form they are centered more like this set up.


Good point.  The wheel base isn't finalized as of yet.  The frame fixture is adjustable, so moving the suspension forward a 1/2", etc isn't a huge ordeal.  The front will take a lot more time to dial in with the fender openings moved forward, etc. as well.

Lots of work but sure looks good. What a great car it will be when done. I can't wait to see more pictures.


I'll be posting more updates soon... Thanks for watching!

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2007 - 01:01:52 AM »
Wow great work...is your dad open to adopting someone right now?  :biggrin:

I like how he sectioned and moved the front wheel well opening forward. It really stands out.  :droolingbounce:



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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2007 - 01:31:13 AM »
Hole-E-Crap!  That is some awesome work!   :ylsuper:
Please keep us posted.

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2007 - 12:37:10 PM »
Insane!

Probably the closest to the Johnson G-Force 'Cuda of any e-body yet!  At least in suspension.
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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2007 - 05:16:44 AM »
Very Very neat work you guys are performing. :clapping: I also find it a lot better when you can step back to see what is going to look correct when doing mock up.  Some free advise their for the novice car builders  :thumbsup:
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But again, very methodical with great execution with your work. :worshippy  You guys have a break and a :drunk: you deserve it.
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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2007 - 06:26:41 PM »
That is a serious ton of work. I wish I could be your protege to learn how to do bodywork that extensive. I would love to have a shop to be able to do all this. Simply amazing.
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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2007 - 08:16:29 PM »
Cool... looks like you are building a museum quality ride there!  :working:

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2007 - 03:27:10 PM »
Thanks for the positive feedback...

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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2007 - 04:36:10 PM »
Motor- 5" to the bottom of the bellhousing and future Dry Sump pan at ride height.






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Re: BAD Challenger.... C5 suspension, 6.1 SRT8 Hemi, 6 speed, etc....
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2007 - 05:13:15 PM »
VERY nice.    :worshippy  High level stuff.     I need some Baer products soon here.Which kit is so backed up? The fronts or the backs?   Robert.
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